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Thurgreed 4:27
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Apparently, I'm not the onlyone Note the statistic comparing McNabb to Brad Johnson. And call any number of Eagles fans. And for such a talented athlete as McNabb, he sure can't get that team to score, can he?
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Lies, damn lies and whatever link you just posted. First, go ask any head coach in the league or better yet, anyone who knows anything about football who they would rather have, McNabb or Johnson and you'll probably eat that link without hotsauce. Put Keyshawn on the Eagles and watch McNabb's numbers soar.
And I can't believe you took this guy seriously after he said, "But McNabb has also been sacked more frequently than Johnson—more than once, on average, per game, which negates much of the rushing advantage." Excuse me? A sack counts for negative rushing yards. Therefore, this tremendous negative is incorporated into his rushing stats. Besides, I would argue that a high number of sacks is usually the fault of the offensive line and most likely the receivers who might not be capable of getting open. Either way, the comment is stupid.
Then he follows up with this: "So far, no black quarterback has been able to dominate a league in which the majority of the players are black. To pretend that many of us didn't want McNabb to be the best quarterback in the NFL because he's black is absurd."
This is fucking comical. I'm black and I don't give a shit if McNabb is considered the best quarterback in the league. Where does he get this crap? I want to see Vick dominate the league because he's exciting. He's like the next version of McNabb. And I like him because he's exciting not black.
Finally, the guy is an Eagles fan which puts him, at best, in the irrational camp. Try these quotes on for size from people who actually know what the fuck they're talking about :
'Dallas Cowboys coach Bill Parcells said Limbaugh's opinion doesn't "represent how the majority -- the high majority" of people involved in the game for a long time think. "I know it doesn't represent anything near what I think," he said.'
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'Washington Redskins coach Steve Spurrier was far from agreeing with the overrated part of Limbaugh's opinion. "They didn't give him all that money because he's an average quarterback," Spurrier said. "He's one of the best in the league."'
I can smell you're comeback already: "Well, these two coaches must be cowed by the media." Right.
You know, if all it took was pure stats to be one of the best, you would be screaming that we should have traded Jeter and signed Rodriguez or Garciaparra already. McNabb is an elite quarterback. You know it. I know it. The media know it. Limbaugh knows it. You're just throwing a fit because someone got in trouble for saying something about race and you're all upset over the PCing of the world.
And of course you're not the only one saying it. That's to be fully expected. But surely that doesn't mean you're right. If Andy Reid was black and Donovan McNabb was white, best believe Limbaugh would be spouting the same crap about Reid not winning the big game, being overrated, not belonging in the head coach fraternity because he was a black hire, etc. And you'd be citing articles backing him up. But I don't see anyone saying, "Reid doesn't use McNabb correctly. It's time for him to step down in favor of a black head coach who understands how to use an athletic quarterback and with whom he would have a better rapport." But this isn't the year 3003, so I guess I'll wait for that.
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Yes. Never won the big game. Vinny Testeverde is now an all-time passing leader. You wanna call him one of the greatest quarterbacks?
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That argument is just plain dumb. You can't equate longevity with greatness. Your analogy doesn't apply.
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
I sound like a complete jackass for merely pointing out that FACT that the NFL makes an express issue out of race by mandating quotas under penalty of fine? I didn't even express my opinion on the topic. What the fuck is wrong with you, dude?
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You sound like a jackass because requiring teams to interview black coaches has nothing to do with the media's perception when it comes to McNabb. You see race, so automatically you bring it up. Next you'll say, that it's the same problem because the NFL is trying to appease the press and the Jesse Jacksons of the world by (1) pushing black coaches on owners and (2) pushing black quarterbacks on fans. But as far as I can see, the owners are still free to hire whoever they want (and they do) and the NFL and the media spend more time pushing Joey Harrington (the virtuoso, clean-cut, all-American white boy next door) down my throat than most other quarterbacks (Vick excluded).
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Why go through the motions of interviewing someone you don't intend to hire?
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So you get familiar with the motions. So you expose yourself to intelligent black coaches who answer your questions better than the guy you've already set your mind on. So you can see what kind of run defense he's planning on instituting so you can say to yourself, "That would work, how come no one else thought of that?" So the next time you're looking for someone your mind will be a little more open. It's not all a media-PC-fix on the NFL's part. I actually think it's a good idea.
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
I think its atrocious that Chris Chambliss and Willie Randolph haven't made head coach yet. Said it before and I'll say it again.
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Great. I'm sure the (what is it...2?) black managers (out of 30) agree with you.
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
At first I thought it was an idiotic hire, until someone pointed out to me that hes a perfect fit for the football watching demographic
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That would make him an idiotic hire.
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