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Old 11-04-2003, 03:56 PM   #6041
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While this discussion of the bimbos of 90120

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Originally posted by paigowprincess
I cant tell if this is anti elistist SD, reformed elitist SD or pro elisitst SD.

Carolyn Bessette was a solid member of the middle class who did not go to boarding school. Much like you Sebby except for your country club fork thing and your private school background.. She was planning on being a schoolteacher when CK plucked her from his Boston store. I suggest that you get your facts straight before assuming she was this wealthy rich kid turned super socialite, bc that is notat all accurate.

And yes, we were tlaking hotties. I think she is hot. It is my opinion and you cant talk me out of it. Sorry. Diffrent strokes, right fringey

As for common, I think you are using it inveresly. Common is a term that I suppose members of the elite upper class would use to describe the lower and lower middle classes. PRobably derived from the English aristocracy referring to commoners. I am sure AG or BRC can confirm this and then add about five paragraphs to the thought. The fact that you are using common to denote the typical prep school rich girl is sort of, well, hypocrtical given your mocking the rich for teaching kids how to use the forks.

As I said earlier, I think that elegance and grace are linked to beauty. You cannot tell me otherwise bc beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

This all said, when I am tlaking about a woman being beautiful (I think I was originally dogged for being jealous for saying someone had a nose job and fake tits which are for sale and I could proudly own them if I so desired) I am not talking someone I want to fuck. I am talkingmore like from an appreciation standpoint. YOu just want to stare at them. And that is how Carolyn , and Christy and Angelina and Bo Derek are to me. Whether you want to fuck them really doesnt change my assessment.

Edited to add that I guess if I take hot literally- which means more sexy than beautiful as the judges of Are You Hot would tell me, then I dont think Carolyn was hot. BUt there are few few women I would want to have sex with , and strangely, they arent necessarily beautiful.
Paigs,

You can duck and weave like Muhammed Ali when you want to. That last post was crafted tightly enough that I have to say I agree with it. We've been on the same page all along - "hot" is different than classically beautiful.

As to Bessette's background, I recall she was not a commoner, but actually came from an old family with a rather solid history in the area. And as to public schooling, where'd she go? Greenwich PS 101? I don't honestly know, so you can fill that one in for me. Bottom line... the Kennedy's don't marry proles, so whether she's monied or traces her lineage back the Mayflower, she's well bred. Failing that, she gives the appearance of impeccable breeding.

I'm neither elitist nor reformed. I'm just calling Bessette what most folks see her as - a symbol of what's perceived be good breeding. I can't put my finger on what exactly the defvining quality is that makes her appears so, but she's got it. And there's a certain person who thinks that's beautiful. Hell, I think its refreshing, since it usually means the person has manners. However, I don't think its "hot".

So we're in agreement,
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