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Originally posted by sgtclub
And you are so eager to believe there weren't because, if there were, you would have to admit that GWB was right and you and all your leacherous lefty friends were wrong - you whole belief structure would crumble right before our eyes.
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Do you know what "lecherous" means?
I was very much on the fence about the war for a long time leading up to it. A lot of people whom I respect were for it.
Be that as it may, come on. We now all know that Bush and Co. made decisions and said things to the country (and the world) that they did not know to be true. If you're making the case for them, it's that they were playing a hunch, and betting that once they took the country over, they would find facts supporting them. The sort of frantic, rear-guard efforts to find something, anything to support the Administration (those aren't trailers for artillery spotting balloons, those are mobile bio-weapons production facilities . . . never mind, they're trailers) confirm this.
As best as I can tell -- though you guys aren't trying hard to articulate a defense -- the best one can say about the many statements of Bush et al. that have since been shown to be patently lacking in empirical support -- oh hell, let's just say they were false -- is that they thought they were doing the right thing, and convinced themselves of this out of the best of intentions even though the intelligence wasn't there. In other words, they weren't lying, they were reckless. And yet you're not concerned that our foreign policy is in the hands of reckless fuck-ups.
This is like Vietnam all over again, and I'm talking more about what's happening and is going to happen in this country. (Although the headlines this morning about the number of Iraqis we killed yesterday are eerily parallel.) Spin and press management only take you so far.
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originally posted by S_A_M
Actually, to avoid any charges of boot-strapping, I should point out that the Ignatius piece is the very article that I linked to in my original post on the matter. But iI think that point is well-taken.
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Oops. Sorry -- I tried to check that, but must have misread the dates.
