Quote:
	
	
		| 
					Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield  You can get to 225.  You can get to 250 if you try.  
 And in return, you will get shoulder pain that wakes you in the middle of the night.
 
 I was cranking up the numbers like crazy, as putting on muscle makes it easier to keep off weight.  Then, about six months ago, out of the blue, the pain started.  Aleve kills off some of it, but man... it's like my arms and shoulders just said, "Nope.  You're an old fuck.  We're not having this shit anymore."
 | 
	
 Hard pass.  It also seems to me that soccer players look the best.  So it's been cardio, HIIT, cardio, cardio, HIIT