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Old 02-12-2020, 03:01 PM   #357
Tyrone Slothrop
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Re: stoned

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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield View Post
Eight levels were added for an alleged threat via text to Credico.

That’s prosecutors lying. They know Stone posed zero threat to anyone. But the rule book allows them to say it with plausible deniability.

Scoundrels to left, scoundrels to the right.

I’ve done this dance with these assholes. If they don’t like being lied to, they should stop fucking lying.

It’s a game of nihilist shitballs. They should all be sent somewhere together. Stone is insane or the dumbest man alive. Probably both. His Javerts are, well, resigned.

Giant waste of tax money. He should do three for being an idiot. His Netflix documentary was funny, so I’d let him out immediately at 80% of time served, as fed rules apply, I believe.

This country is over. But then, it’s been over for a while.

ETA: The new sentencing memo, amazingly signed by the same us atty who signed the previous one (and claims he was bullied into doing so by the prosecutors who resigned) agreed with me on the Credico “threat”: https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/11/polit...ted/index.html. But it also goes one step further, citing something I missed — that Credico himself stated that he never felt threatened! He never took it seriously. And he in fact submitted a letter to the court asking Stone receive no jail time! And yet one of these prosecutors nevertheless sought an 8 level enhancement for a physical threat.

That is not Stone receiving what’s due under the guidelines. That’s gross overreach, and in the civil realm, possibly a sanctionable misrepresentation to the court.

I don’t like seeing the top brass step in and adjust this memo because it makes it look like they’re kissing the President’s ass. And that’s a shame, because the first memo was egregious enough, and such a craven overreach, that basic decency compelled its retraction. I think a judge would have slammed the prosecutor who asked for the enhancement without aid of an amended memo. I’d have preferred these prosecutors be taken to the woodshed like those in the Ted Stevens case (though not as severely, as what they did here is not nearly as bad). Maybe she still will do so. That would be of great benefit, to show the public how reckless and inhumane prosecutions often become.
You have a visceral reaction to prosecutors, about which whatever. The whole point of the sentencing guidelines is to take sentencing discretion away from judges and to give it to prosecutors. The prosecutors in this case charged Stone under the same law that applies to everyone else, and got a conviction in seven hours. I had been paying close enough attention to know that Credico says he didn't feel threatened. FWIW, I also understand something should be obvious: people who do feel threatened sometimes feel obliged to say they did not, see, e.g., the president of Ukraine. But whatever -- a jury heard more evidence than you did, and convicted Stone.

I don't really care whether Stone gets three years, or five, or seven. What I do care about is the principle that criminal prosecution should not be politicized. To say this "looks like" DOJ brass was kissing the President's ass is like being concerned that the Titanic looked like it was taking on water. Talk about burying the lede.
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