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Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan
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This podcast, which is long but quite excellent, gets into death under-reporting, and how small tweaks to the numerator turn a reassuring picture to a dire one:
https://peterattiamd.com/michaelosterholm/
If you want the same scientist saying the same things with more entertaining banter, Osterholm also did Joe Rogan's show a while back and touched most of the same subjects. But even now, I do not have time to listen to a three hour podcast. And Attia is a doctor, so his questions are more insightful and linear than Rogan's often meandering inquiries.