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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield
1. We’re talking about the % of people the disease kills. The WTC analogy is inapt and you know it.
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If the virus kills people by filling up hospitals with Covid patients such that other people die, those people are just as dead as if they jumped from a high rise.
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2. We are not waiting and cannot wait for contact tracing. Drive that through your skull. We don’t have that kind of time. (Don’t like that? Take it up with those lenders you’re so keen on protecting. Ask them how they’ll feel about choking down six months of 20% default rates. Get back to me with their responses.)
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It's not the contact tracing that takes the time, it's the lack of testing.
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3. If we were talking about the death rate from the flu, I would absolutely include the analysis of co-morbidities, along with all other adjustments.
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Then pretend I posted your last post and go explain why it's wrong.
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4. I’m not saying fuck it, let’s go. You continually ignore that because you can’t deal with the fact that I am actually arguing for continuing social distancing as much as possible. If you wish to argue with the “fuck it, let’s go” point, argue with Less.
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I'm not sure what you're arguing for now. But I was responding to what was actually in the article you posted.
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5. 500,000 dead is nothing compared to what you’ll get if we don’t start incrementally, carefully, reopening. You’re one of the dimwits who’s only looking at the immediate health crisis side of the ledger. Wanna know what a depression is? A fucking health crisis. Mass death over a longer time period. You’re so myopically focused you don’t even see that all you’re doing is shifting the dates of deaths. X over near term vs. XXX over the longer.
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You said this before, and I asked you to explain how you get the bigger death rates from the economic depression, which we are going to have anyway if governments open up too soon and a lot of people die.
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ETA: You haven’t said as much, but I’d assume you favor a one size fits all approach. Please tell m I’m wrong and you’re not dumb enough to think we need to keep Bumfuck Falls, SD on lockdown until the numbers fall in Maryland.
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I've already said that, so sure. I am reasonably optimistic that my state will manage the testing and contact tracing before other states, and it would be easier to police our borders than yours.
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ETA2: Thus is all academic. It’s reopening incrementally starting next month whether you like it or not. I hope it opens slowly and carefully, but Less may be predicting the future more accurately.
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Whatever, dude. If that's true, not sure why you posted that article.
