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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield
I do not have the full FDA study, nor do you. Neither you nor I know if the cardiac issues cited by the FDA accrued from Covid on its own, HCQ on its own, or a combination of the two. Nor do we know the comorbidities of the people who suffered the cardiac issues. If the "risk" of its use accrues from the fact that it strains the heart of a person with underlying heart disease, and the study was packed full of those, then you have a flawed data set.
How "risk" is calculated by the FDA is not defined in the press release.
Nor is how "benefit" is defined explained in the release. It could be that the drug does benefit healthy people, but the chance of it harming a much greater group of unhealthy people outweighs the benefit it provides to others.
I also notice the FDA does not say it does not work -- only that they deem it unlikely to work, and then in the next sentence state that it has "potential benefits."
It's a very sloppy release. Ty sees intent. I see ineptitude, with science, grammar, or perhaps both.
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I'm sure the FDA never thought of any of those issues. You should write them.
You can come up with all the metaphysical doubts about the validity of the FDA study. My point was merely that this was a funny dialogue:
You: I talked to some doctors and the drugs work. In fact, any argument that risk of the harms from the drugs might outweigh the benefits is pure sophistry.
Ty (months later): The FDA did a study and concluded the drugs are unlikely to work, and that the risk of harms, including serious cardiac illness, from the drugs outweighs any potential benefits.
You: I was right!!!
I'll also note that your probing skepticism of the FDA study (some of which may be valid -- as you note, we don't know a lot), is in striking contrast to your willingness, based on one post from a lawyer on an internet chatting board who said that he knew some other guy that was really sick, took the drug, and got better, that the drugs not only "all but assuredly" were the cause of this guy's cure, but that they were generally effective as cures for COVID.
