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Originally Posted by Adder
The fundamental disconnect is that they are most angry at liberals, whom they see as constantly working against them, while liberals see them as potential coalition partners if they'd just get on board. The Bros think staying out of the coalition is how the revolution comes. The liberals thinks partnership is how change happens to avoid the need for a revolution. Both theories of change are correct.
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But can they really get along? The Bernie folks are closer to populist than liberal. Liberals are incrementalists. The Bernie folks know that liberals won’t go to the extremes that Bernie followers desire. They view aligning with liberals as a bait and switch. Kind of like social conservatives with the old line moderate GOP. They’d vote for the Republican and demand social conservatism and after Election Day they’d be ignored.
I think the Bernie people suspect, and they’d be right, that letting it all burn down is more likely to get them what they want than getting in bed with Clintonites. The Clinton Democrats are never going to give the Bernie faction what it wants. The demands are simply too insane. No one can give them that. The only way they get what they want, which is truly very close to actual socialism, is if the capitalist system all but collapses and we have widespread severe social unrest.
That could happen if Trump wins another term. Not as likely if Biden wins.
