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Old 08-13-2020, 06:25 AM   #2880
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Re: [I]The People, No./Evil Geniuses[/I]

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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop View Post
I say, you're not talking about the real problems, and you say, I'm talking about Sanders supporters and the kind of "Republicans" who voted for Clinton and will vote for Biden.

The substantial majority of the country that supports Trump is the problem. You should talk about what to do about them.
I say I am. And so do Frank and Anderson, which is why I linked them. To discuss the Trump voters you say are the problem, and the Bernie voters which are similar in many regards, one must discuss the cause. The cause is neoliberalism. And when you discuss neoliberalism, you realize it’s libertarian-lite noblesse oblige.

Frank and Anderson are diagnosing the disease. You’re diagnosing one of many symptoms.

I also don’t necessarily see a problem. I see a choice, a cause. Neoliberalism is a decision to arbitrage labor costs, rendering certain lower to mid-skilled people obsolete. It’s not a problem as much as a deliberate policy choice. I’m only advocating admitting it aloud. Most proponents of it recoil or flip out when one does that. They take all sorts of crazy efforts to avoid that conversation or deflect. Why not admit it? Tell the proles what we’re doing.

I’m tired of hearing the laissez faire left blame it all on the right. The neoliberals on the right and the left are not much distinct from one another. The only difference is those on the left would give more aid to those they put out of work (to fatten their own profits). But neither camp of neoliberals, right or left, wants a more fair system that would give the losers more money at cost to their own profits.

Offering to pay a few extra dollars every year in taxes to allow the people you put out of work to have a subsistence existence doesn’t make you a hero.
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