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Old 09-28-2020, 02:25 PM   #3353
Tyrone Slothrop
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Re: Problem solved.

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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield View Post
I'm not a one issue voter, and I don't see anyone flipping Roe anyway.
No, to do that you would have to replace Anthony Kennedy with someone farther to the right, and you'd have to have a really solid conservative majority, at least 6-3, so that you could still lose one. There's no sign of that, is there?

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I am also truly disgusted with the Democratic Party at this point, and with the Left. They call Trump a would-be authoritarian, and I think they're correct in that. But they practice the same exact behaviors. They've allowed a crowd of fake intellectuals and radicals to create and enforce an orthodoxy based on lies.

The progressive wing of the Democratic Party is nuts. Fucking card carrying crazy. As batshit insane as the right wing of the GOP.

Defund the police?
You're either anti-racist or you're racist?
We all must follow the teachings of DeAngelo?
Trump is an existential threat to the nation?

This is Manichean nonsense.

For four years, I have listened to people assert that the only response to Donald Trump must be "resist!" No nuanced view can be tolerated. No credit may be given to him even when he accidentally does something good. He must be fought and assailed at every turn and anything less than that is an illegitimate view. It is a view which is dangerous and must be shut down. He who countenances Trump, shrugs at him, is enabling a dangerous racist enemy.

Bullshit. And fuck you. Seriously, people who traffic in the sort of thing --fuck off with your overwrought, and shrill (yes, shrill) and hysterical bullshit.

Those people have gone too far. I'm tired of them. I'm tired of not even being able to coolly discuss politics with them at dinner. I'm tired of their status signalling. Do they not know that people of actual status see right through them? That it's immediately apparent they adopt a horrified look whenever Trump is discussed because they think this is the posture one who wishes to telecast he is educated and professional adopts?

Trump was and is a divider, but that's a tango, and he's enjoyed more willing dupes who'll play dance partner than any con man in history. The legions of people who'll blame him for creating the racism and classism we see in law enforcement today are clueless. The causes of that are myriad, go back decades, and Joe Biden and Hillary have a lot more to do with causing today's racism in the justice system than Trump.

But hey, why get into complexities? Instead, adopt a childlike view that Trump is a racist and that he's putting black lives at risk, rather than a system that was created by Ds and Rs over many years is actually doing it. Instead, just make it simple:

Trump Bad! He's racist. Get rid of him and we'll help stop racism!

If you believe that, you're a fool. Yet something that dumb has been written here every week since Trump has been in office. Just last week, a person with a sophomore understanding of politics asserted that he was resistant to Trump because Trump put "people of color" in danger. (I wonder if this person could explain why Trump is actually outpolling Biden among Latinos in certain states... Are all those Latinos deluded? And I wonder if he's spoken to any Indian people about Trump. A lot of Indians invest in and operate real estate. Wanna guess how they'll be voting?)

I'm sick of dumb people on both sides of this debate. I'm also sick of Trump. But I'm also unwilling to enable the Democratic Party at this point because I think it's a cynical shit party which is only interested in its own power.

The old line wing of the D Party, Biden's people, are scumbags. They are only interested in keeping control of their party, and they'll placate the lunatic progressives with whatever crazy bullshit they demand simply to stay on top. They suck as much as the Republicans.

Both parties deserve to lose, and the Trump MAGA people who want to take us back to the 50s, and the progressives who want to enforce new culture codes on us deserve to burn themselves out and be relegated to the dustbin of history.

So to both sides of this election: Take your MAGA hat, and take your woke fist in the air...

And shove them up your asses. I'll be staying home on November 3.
I drove to the grocery store yesterday and coming the other way down the street was a MAGA parade, trucks honking their horns and flying their Trump flags and causing a traffic jam. The point of the exercise was just to express themselves, and to get in the face of the large majority of people who live in this area and who will vote for Biden.

The idiocy of voting against Biden because he beat all of the progressives you dislike so much, because some of his supporters irritate you.

You are just like the Trump voters in the MAGA parades, in your own way. Go get yourself a flag.
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