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Old 03-18-2021, 06:39 PM   #4638
Tyrone Slothrop
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Re: Cancel Culture, Right Wing Style

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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield View Post
This is pretty much a tacit admission that my last line about the worst people in this mess hit a little to close to home for you.
I'm sorry if I somehow gave you the impression that I tacitly admit or agree with anything in any of your lines. I was trying to suggest that I expressly thought your entire post was wrong, that the big idea behind it was misconceived, and that in general what you said was just entirely wrong.

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But I have no interest in fighting with you about whether you're fine with illiberal behavior that suits ends you like, or whether I'm fine with conservative behavior. My only cheap point was to say "I told you so" to you. And as more on the right copy DeSantis, I'll say it more often.

But unlike you, who'll remain dormant when voices you don't like are targeted, I am close to absolutist. I've defended the left when they're cancelled. And I'm calling what DeSantis is doing what it is: Cancel Culture. You prefer to dissemble and change the focus, pretending it doesn't exist. If what DeSantis did isn't cancellation of a sort, what is?

Or are you now going to make the argument that what DeSantis is doing is cancel culture, but what's been done by the left wasn't?

It's your own knot in which you're tied. You figure it out.
The concept of "cancel culture" is a perverted, unfortunate mess, but fortunately you don't need it to say that what DeSantis is doing is wrong. You described it as full-on censorship. No one here disagrees. No one here supports that kind of censorship. The big, stupid idea in your post is your attempt to tie that kind of censorship to Yglesias getting a Substack, and your "I told you so" that if only more people had shouted down that transsexual journalist at Vox, the Governor of Florida wouldn't be trying his hand at full-on censorship.
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