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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield
A lot of progressives thought Trump was a mastermind
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I'll stop you right there. No one thought he was a mastermind.
I'm old enough to remember:
“Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,” Trump said in July 2016. “I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.”
Whether by coincidence or not, a special counsel investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election later determined that Russian hackers made their first attempt to break into computers in Clinton’s personal office on the same day as Trump’s request.
Yes, maybe it was just a big coincidence, but since Trump made his ask at a press conference, you can maybe understand why some people would believe he meant what he said.
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who had an actually plausible plan to overthrow "democracy," whatever that means (conservatives are now accusing Biden of doing the same thing, but neither side has ever defined what it means, and I doubt they'd ever reach consensus on it).
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I think a lot of people have talked about threats to "democracy" when they really are talking about threats to the rule of law. So if your point is that some people use loose rhetoric, I'm with you there.
Fast forward seven years, with the Jan. 6 hearings in the rear view mirror and the indictments laying out likely accurate facts about Trump's inner circle and one thing is inarguably clear:
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These "authoritarians" everyone was in such a lather about were stone cold idiots. They'd as much chance of overturning that election as that whack-job army of dead enders who ran amuck through the Capitol.
2016-Present has been a screenplay cribbing the darkest bits of Monty Python and Dr. Strangelove.
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I don't necessarily agree with you on that, and even if you're right, isn't the real harm that they have normalized the effort? Can you imagine the Republican Party nominating someone who says that Trump lost the election and that it was wrong to storm the Capital?
The whole party keeps metastasizing into more crazy. What was beyond the pale becomes the norm.
