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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield
That "if" is what has to be proven. I thought he made the call before the litigation was over, but even being wrong about that, Trump never agrees he lost any court case. His asking for votes is consistent with his past refusal to accept defeat and a belief that the court didn't have adequate proof before it and he was seeking that proof.
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Uh,
no. The call happened on January 2. The court cases were over. Agree completely that he refuses to accept defeat, but don't get why you see that as some sort of justification.
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I think roping in inner circle types like Giuliani is smart. But 18 people many of whom have never even heard of each other? And I'm not speaking to legitimacy. I'm handicapping based on practicalities.
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You don't seem to be considering the additional leverage the State gets. Some of them have started to defend themselves by saying they were only following his orders, which tends to strengthen the case against him. Charging people incentivizes them to flip.
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I didn't say they were. But when you start mixing non-criminal acts with criminal acts, you invite both confusion, doubt as to which is and isn't criminal, and the defense that the case is criminalizing politics.
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Oh, come on now. Every single complaint I have ever read incudes facts that tell the story but are not elements of prima facie claims. It's necessary for context. The notion that doing this here is "criminalizing politics" is sophistry. Saying this belies an intentional ignorance of everything in the indictment that isn't a part of ordinary politics.
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She has a rifle. There's enough to nail a tight crowd of inner circle types who have solid criminal exposure. I think using the shotgun is a strategy error. But that's just me. I've never been the sort to sue everybody one can just to be careful because it makes a messy case. I think the smarter approach is to do your due diligence and sue the people you're certain have liability.
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You seem to think that she has sued people who she doesn't think have certain liability. Whom do you mean?
