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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield
1. You’re not saying anything. You’re reframing. As is your move. It’s been more than 20 years.
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You were calling DEI a form of authoritarianism, and I was saying it was exactly the opposite, in that it is not really changing anyone's behavior much at all. Saying that companies spend money on DEI consultants or lose money with ESG is missing the point.
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2. Of course you don’t believe anything about the laptop. You want to appear above it all, but you’re ultimately emotional.
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I believe all sorts of things about the laptop. I believe Hunter Biden has done things I disapprove of, and I wouldn't vote for him. I didn't vote for him. I voted for his father, and he is being dragged through the mud in an effort to harm his father, as we all know. If he were a Republican, you would be full of sympathy for the way he is being abused, but since he is a Democrat, it doesn't bother you -- you think his dick pics should be on the news.
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3. I don’t need to mock you here. You’re emotionally on one side. Hence the hysteria on “both sides-ism.”
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I'm not defending the pieties you want to mock (but aren't mocking). I'm saying they don't exist. You carp and carp and carp about how you can't say the things that you and many other people are saying.
Your both-sidesism is apologism for authoritarianism. Left-wing authoritarianism exists -- it's called Communism. It is a real problem in some parts of the world, like China. But not in the US. Here, the authoritarian threat is from the right. And your both-sidesism is a myopic effort to deny reality, to invent a non-existent left-wing counterpart to MAGA.
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4. They’re absolutely off limits. You can’t poke fun at DEI and collect a check in any large corp or agency.
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There are all sorts of things you can't say at many large organizations, because saying them reveals that you are a little dim, with poor judgment, someone who doesn't know how to fit in. You can poke fun at DEI just like you can poke fun at Finance. (But if you go after either in the wrong way, you are demonstrating that you don't know how to play.)
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5. You’ve a position. You just want to seem above it all. We both know that. Your issue is my issue. You can’t admit it. The difference is, I now realize I’ve never really had a position. I’m actually what I am, which I’ll have to deal with. You’re playing rationalist. Nobody likes a pose.
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Of course I have a position. I have never pretended otherwise. I'm not "playing rationalist," whatever that is. Are you copping to being irrational?
