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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

I'd say there's an overt effort by his campaign in Rust Belt states, which are not socially conservative or "in the cult," like the deep red states, to say, "Don't listen to him... Just pay attention to the economic policies." The pitch is effective, because no one in PA likes anything about him, but it does like his energy and economic policies.

However, it has limitations. That debate embarrassment is a bridge too far for many pocketbook voters. Even the most coldly rational tax voters I know had a "WTF was that?" reaction. The cats and dogs thing can never be unseen. If there were any question Trump and Vance were weird going into the debate, it's now settled.

I didn't watch much of it, but I did happen thru the family room while my wife had it on and I heard the comment live. The thing was surreal. For a moment. Then there's the shrug... "That's right. I forgot. He's fucking crazy."

Tax voters should be wary of his tariff promises.