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Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
I've lost 7+ lbs in a day. All water of course.
And Bilmore, I think it's great that your friends are losing weight. However, I'd be willing to bet that it's b/c Atkins basically keeps you away from junk food. Well, no shit you're going to lose weight if you don't eat that bag of lime Tostitos and side of fries...it's not the protein-rich component that causes the weight loss. It's the "you can't eat the uber-processed white bread and pasta, etc" that only exists in this country.
Edited to add that I agree w/PLF -- converting suburban fatties to a vegetarian diet can only improve their looks. Although I prefer that my spinning hippie chicks shower.
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While I agree that some of the benefit of Atkins (indeed, any diet) for most people is removal of Twinkies from the usual meal rotation, apparently the most recent (actually independent) several studies discovered (i) people on Atkins loose more than people on low fat diets when consuming the same number of calories, (ii) people on Atkins lose more than people on low fat diets when consuming several hundred calories per day more than the low fat dieters, (iii) people on Atkins usually eat more fresh fruit and vegetables than non-Atkins dieters and about the same amount as people on strict low fat diets, and (iv) Atkins dieters lower their cholesterol more than low-fat dieters. (No word on the cancer/free radical thing yet, either way, so far as I've found, which makes sense simply because enough time hasn't passed to check long term stuff like that - all each side can do is state their beliefs about what will happen longer term, with basically nothing empirical to back any of it up.) It sure doesn't mean Atkins is good for you, but it clearly means that conventional low-fat thinking is in some basic way wrong.
The independents who did the research all basically say "these results weren't what we were expecting and we don't know why." Of course they don't know why. My take on the whole thing is that dieticians of all stripes, whether low fat or low carb, private gurus or gov't experts or whatever, have no clue what the fuck they are talking about. The "established experts" with the low fat stuff have basically been proven wrong when their theories are tested against others in controlled environments. I seriously doubt any of the "new" low-carb guys are any better. They all sound like they are trying to convince you that Jezis saves and based on about as much uncooked evidence. They all spout equal ignorance, or belief rather than knowledge to be more kind, and might as well be recommending that we stick pins in voodo dolls to lose weight. The only sure thing is that fat, salt and sugar are tasty and people in general have completely lost control of their will power. I'm with SD: moderation is the only truth, but whatever magic tricks people need to employ to get there, fine.
BR(best diet so far, as several others have mentioned: eat nothing that comes prepackaged. That unfortunately involves learning to cook, sort of)C
