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		| Originally posted by Fugee Because I have arrived at my beliefs as a result of studying not only the Bible but also secular sources, I won't cop to "actual ignorance."  I don't know what kind of study supports your beliefs so I can't even say whether I'm at a point of more or less ignorance than you.  And because my faith has certainly wavered over the years (hence the study), I can't cop to unwavering faith.
 
 I will say that I have a deep faith in God as I understand God to be based on the Bible, which I think is reliable based on historical church and non-church materials, and what I see in the world and people around me.  It is faith and not fact because we can't see or know God or the lack of God or whether there is life after death in a tangible fashion.
 
 You have a faith that sounds to be as strongly held as mine.  How do you justify yours?
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 Fugee-
With all due respect, what about people who don't think the Bible includes all the books you do?
Not to get all religious and pious and shit, but I believe in God, I believe in the Bible, I follow the tenents of a religion.  But my religion acknowldeges only 5 books of the Bible, only the old testament, and only one God, not the trinity.
I believe that I try to follow God's law...and I'm pretty sure that that was at the heart of Jesus' message.  
So, if I follow God's law, but I don't worship Jesus as a deity, am I still going to NotFredland, or Hell, or the giant toaster in the sky?  
What happened to the message of tolerance in Christianity?  What happened to love one another?  Or is it tolerance and love only for those who believe in Jesus?
Maybe it's time for a religion board, because this has sucked all the fun out of my day.