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Originally posted by Not Me
Same sex schools are a cop out. It just reinforces the idea that women are too weak to compete.
Why? Why can't the women go take the hard core subjects at coed schools? I did and graduated at the top of my class.
Women shunned these hard core classes. I often found myself one of a handful of women in the math and physics classes I took. No one forced women to choose art history or communications over physics. They chose that themselves.
The reasons they chose that is because for some, they don't want to look smarter than the guys because this is scary to men. I have scared away several men because of my intelligence. Yes, I agree, good riddance, but after it happens often enough, you see why women might want to shun the hardcore subjects because of how scary that is to men to be with a woman who is smarter than they are.
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I'd leave the coed schools as an option, including a "hard core" coed school. But you still have male and female students, teachers, administrators and parents who give the kindergarden girls Barbie Dolls and the kindergarden boys legos. And, as a parent of a little girl, you can't control how they will be treated by aggressive little boys blah blah blah. You can see what I'm saying, but basically, there is a reason I distinguished for K-12. I'd love to see more women with your educational background. But, just like desegration bussing etc..., what we've done so far just hasn't seemed to help.
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Originally posted by Not Me
Just the opposite is true. Academia is the most egalitarian it gets. The business world is where things are so uneven. I have seen women promoted specifically because they were dumb women and the goal was to make an example out of a stupid women. Then they could say how they tried to promote the women but look what happened when we did!
It isn't educational discrimination that is to blame (although it is discrimination of another sort). At least in my exerience, I was the least discriminated against in academia.
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Did you go to public grade schools? If so, good God, what the hell are you talking aobut? They've had studies on this stuff showing who gets called on etc....
As adults though, I really don't buy the discrimination thing these days, as women are advancing everywhere in the world (exceptions, many exceptions, apply). But I can't imagine being more stereotyped than a black male in this society, or having more people assume success is the result of an artificial boost etc.... Christ, I (I suspect most of us) have no idea how anybody actually does make it out of the northern ghettoes, what with the huge obstacles they have to overcome. And, given the government and attitudes that have created and perpetuated the concentrated poverty along racial lines, I'd say its not women who, as a group, face the greatest hurdles in adult life.
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Originally posted by Not Me
Look at what happens when you do have an opinionated bright woman post on a board. You all call her a man. And if you were to believe I was female, you would immediately conclude I must be an ugly woman to spend time posting here. You would assume that if I would choose to talk politics over say, hanging out with my boyfriend or going shopping, it must be because I have no other choice since I must be ugly. That theme has been expounded upon here numerous times.
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Point taken.
