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Originally posted by Tyrone_Slothrop
How odd, that you would so lightly impugn the credibility of a Republican (ex-)government official. I thought you were disinclined to call people liars, but I guess that only cuts one way.
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No, I indicated that his credibility has been called into question through factual assertions from others that contradict his. For that reason, the credibility of all involved is an issue. Even his. I continue to believe that, when trying to discern who is telling the truth in these situations, you need to know the motivations behind the statements. You think we should discount those?
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And how odd that only those on other side of the political spectrum "draw[] their conclusions for the benefit of their election spin." Come to think of it, that's just like calling them liars, isn't it? We already know that Kevin Drum is a "whore," not that we need any basis for that or anything, so maybe it's a short step to call him a "liar" too.
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If I were referring to Ann Coulter's take on this (while admiring her humor), I would concede that her whoredom is equal to the lefty pundits, and take that into account. I try not to link to the assertions of people of her ilk as containing anything of real substance, in a factual way. To the extent that they fail to provide hard data themselves, but only comment on that hard data, they don't add anything to the debate. But, for the same reason you revile the effectiveness of a Rush, I dislike what the Drums and Iglesias do to the national debate. They all provide cover to people who make up their minds based on something other than their own analysis of the hard data. I don't accuse you or others on this board of that - but, like the audience of the Rushes, a lot of votes are decided based on their opinions, which are colored by their political leanings.