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Old 04-29-2004, 12:25 PM   #3005
Beauty
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Originally posted by bilmore
I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about with this.
Nor did I with your crack about pronouncements. But you are known to change the subject tactically.

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As to your first paragraph, you either seem to be saying the stupid little brown people over there can't read our press, or the true patriots over there fighting the evil US are motivated by zeal for their country, and not by our domestic turmoil. The first is just dumb, and the second is just . . . dumb. You want a cite that proves that they read our press? Read any of the national presses over there, including, of course, AJ.
I believe they read our press.

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You want a cite that domestic turmoil affects the attitudes, plans, and motivations of our enemies? Read something about VN.
I was talking about Iraq, thank you. I've seen nothing that suggests that dissent in this country has much to do with the fighting there.

Treating dissent as an independent source of difficulty is flat-out misguided. If we don't talk about the fact that the barn door is broken, maybe the horses won't leave. We didn't lose Viet Nam because of domestic opposition to the war. There was domestic opposition to the war for a host of good reasons, which were also why we lost. The same is true with Iraq. There is domestic opposition because it was the wrong war to fight, and the administration is fighting it the wrong way. The great thing about living in a democracy, as opposed to a totalitarian regime, is that we can point this out and do something about it. Something ranging from throwing the bums out to making enough noise that the President reverses course on something.
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