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Originally posted by sgtclub
I don't have time to google today, but if it makes you happy I'll submit that I may have been wrong and it may only have been those members of the intelligence committees. Not sure how it changes the point though. There many DEMS on those committees, including Kerry, that (1) saw the info and (2) voted for the war.
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You think the administration went showed those members everything. I don't think that's true. Graham (and Kerry) may have "seen the info" but they were seeing the NIE, etc., not the underlying intel. I would wager that they did not tell Graham what Franks told Bush. And if they did, they classified it so that he couldn't tell others.
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I've read the version of the NIE that was released. It contains the positive evidence and the negative evidence. Is the positive evidence highlighted more than the negative? Yes, because the intelligence community consensus was that, on balance, it was more likely that the positive view was correct. The alternative view is in the document for these guys to read.
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Graham disagrees with you, and he should know. As I recall, you have to read the footnotes pretty carefully. But none of this has to do with my point, as I keep saying.
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As to the Frank's comment, you are reaching a serious conclusion (Bush Lied) based on a jounalist's non-contemporaneous record of events. There are all sorts of things that could effect the veracity of the statements. This is not to say that it is not true, but Woodward has a record of shading a story towards those that will actually talk to him at the expense of those that do not. Rumsfield comes to mind in the first Woodward book on this administration.
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Go back to my 1., 2., 3., 4., and tell me which alternative is more likely, or which one I'm missing. Franks clearly cooperated with Woodward a great deal -- I say this because the book is chock full of what Franks did to plan the war -- and he did this at the President's direction. Bush wanted people to cooperate with Woodward. But what does Woodward's "shading" have to do with anything. Bush talked to him, too.
