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Old 04-20-2004, 08:21 PM   #2101
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Are any of the Californian posters against this? Just curious as to why if you are.
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Old 04-20-2004, 08:28 PM   #2102
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Are any of the Californian posters against this? Just curious as to why if you are.
Yes, haven't we fucked the indians, errr, native americans enough?
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Old 04-20-2004, 08:31 PM   #2103
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Are any of the Californian posters against this? Just curious as to why if you are.
Well, what position will you and bilmore take? Whatever it is, we'll be against it, just 'cuz.
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Old 04-20-2004, 08:32 PM   #2104
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Yes, haven't we fucked the indians, errr, native americans enough?
Tax free casinos as reparations?
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Old 04-20-2004, 08:35 PM   #2105
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Well, what position will you and bilmore take? Whatever it is, we'll be against it, just 'cuz.
I doubt bilmore cares since he doesn't live here.

I am for the casinos being subjec to whatever taxes other corporations are subject to in CA. I am also for lowering corporate taxes to the extent that they make CA a more expensive place to do business, particularly in relation to neighboring states.
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Tax free casinos as reparations?
Should we also be able to tax casinos in Mexico?
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I doubt bilmore cares since he doesn't live here.

I am for the casinos being subjec to whatever taxes other corporations are subject to in CA. I am also for lowering corporate taxes to the extent that they make CA a more expensive place to do business, particularly in relation to neighboring states.
I confess I don't know much about how much benefit the Indian tribes gain from being located in California, i.e., fire protection, police protection, medical care, and the other incidents of government benefits. To the extent they are significant, they should be treated as any other CA corporation.

I also am in favor of lowering CA business taxes, as there seems to be universal agreement among business leaders that this is a real problem for them. I don't want to be part of any race to the bottom a la Delaware, but if they all go away we all got no jobs, and that ain't good.
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Old 04-20-2004, 08:45 PM   #2108
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  • Jurors: Abortion Doctor's Negligence Was Not Intentional
    90 Percent Blame Laid On Patient For Using Fake ID

    HOUSTON -- A woman spoke out Wednesday after a jury refused to find her doctor and the clinic primarily responsible for performing an abortion on her when she was a minor.

    Cherise Hughes, 21, claimed her doctor was negligent when he performed an abortion on her when she was 17 years old, even though she used a fake ID to get the procedure performed.

    A Harris County jury found Dr. Douglas Carpens' negligence caused injury to Hughes, but that it was not intentional.

    The jury placed 10 percent blame on the doctor and 90 percent blame on Hughes. They did not award any damages in the case.

    Both sides declared victory after the jury handed down the verdict.

    The doctor and clinic's attorney said her clients have been exonerated and that this case set a precedent for other physicians.

    "The jury's verdict sends a clear message that you can't commit fraud and deceive somebody, and then profit from it," defense attorney Barbara Hachenburg said.

    Hughes said she was glad she exposed a problem in the system that parents and teens need to know about. She hopes the jury's decision will bring change, and that doctors and clinics will closely scrutinize identification handed to them by young girls seeking abortions.

    "It's very easy to falsify information, and for someone, especially in the medical field performing procedures that are so potentially dangerous, that's something they should really consider," Hughes said.

    Hughes now has two children with the father of her aborted child, and said she hopes the regret she feels will help others facing similar decisions.

    "The mistake that I've made, I feel like I have turned it around and have helped many others keep their kids. So my child, in turn, helped save a lot of lives," Hughes said.

    Her father, Rev. Frederick Mosley, said money was never an issue in the case.

    Carpens did not make any comments throughout the trial or after the verdict was read.

    The Texas Department of Health has changed their guidelines for patients seeking out abortions and the doctors who perform them.

    A picture ID is no longer required, but patients are now required to sign an affidavit verifying the age they give a doctor.
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Should we also be able to tax casinos in Mexico?
Are you saying that Indian-owned land is not in the US? Or just not in CA? Or something else entirely?
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Why does OSHA require an egonomically correct keyboard for my secretary to prevent her from getting carpal tunnel but yet does not require porn workers to wear condomns to prevent life-threatening STDs?
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Old 04-20-2004, 09:12 PM   #2111
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Or maybe not. The attack on the Marines at Husaybah on the 17th & 18th stinks bigtime of Syrian involvement, frankly. Yeah, right after Bush gets done "scolding" Spain. Wanna estimate the chances that, in a little quid pro quo, Bush will ask Israel to deliver that message to Syria for us?
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>>when our people contact his people<<!!!

I think in our current atmosphere, it would be entirely legitimate for our air force to do a targeted strike with the explanation that he is a terrorist who publicly declared the equivalent of war on us. In any case, I'd bet an Israeli targeted strike on him would be welcomed publicly (which would be a slight change from our previous acquiescence to their strikes).

As for Spain, the guy is just doing what he said he'd do. If its what his population wants, then so be it. I, for one, am glad they are a democracy and I look upon them favorably. At least they didn't stand in our way or take bribes from Saddam, AFAIK.

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Why does OSHA require an egonomically correct keyboard for my secretary to prevent her from getting carpal tunnel but yet does not require porn workers to wear condomns to prevent life-threatening STDs?
You secretary may be evaluated on the number of keystrokes/day.

Porn workers have no parallel quota.
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Old 04-20-2004, 09:21 PM   #2113
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Why does OSHA require an egonomically correct keyboard for my secretary to prevent her from getting carpal tunnel but yet does not require porn workers to wear condomns to prevent life-threatening STDs?
My guess would be that it just never ocurred to them. What do they do for boxers or football players?

Condoms in porn never bothered me. But I would be concerned if OSHA became involved. The industry would just move overseas. The recent outbreak is news because it is rare, promting me to believe the industry has done a pretty good job of policing itself. I doubt performers would get such protection in Eastern Europe.
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Are you saying that Indian-owned land is not in the US? Or just not in CA? Or something else entirely?
Unless I am misunderstanding the treaties, yes.
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Blood for OBL Oil $

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Sadaam had $100 billion pass through the "oil for food" program. lots bought off foreign countries, but some might have gone to al Queda- I know its a right wing rag and I know these aren't the al Queda ties thst threat us- and I know.....

AIDING AL QAEDA?
Which brings us to back to terrorist ties, and Perelman's story of June 20, 2003, for which the reporting checks out. In brief (hang on for the ride): One link ran from a U.N.-approved buyer of Saddam's oil, Galp International Trading Corp., involved near the very start of the program, to a shell company called ASAT Trust in Liechtenstein, linked to a bank in the Bahamas, Bank Al Taqwa. Both ASAT Trust and Bank Al Taqwa were designated on the U.N.'s own terror-watch list, shortly after 9/11, as entities "belonging to or affiliated with Al Qaeda." This Liechtenstein trust and Bahamian bank were linked to two closely connected terrorist financiers, Youssef Nada and Idris Ahmed Nasreddin — both of whom were described in 2002 by Treasury as "part of an extensive financial network providing support to Al Qaeda and other terrorist related organizations," and both of whom appear on the U.N.'s list of individuals belonging to or affiliated with al Qaeda.

The other tie between Oil-for-Food and al Qaeda, noted by Perelman, ran through another of Saddam's handpicked, Oil-for-Food oil buyers, Swiss-based Delta Services — which bought oil from Saddam in 2000 and 2001, at the height of Saddam's scam for grafting money out of Oil-for-Food by way of under-priced oil contracts. Now shut down, Delta Services was a subsidiary of a Saudi Arabian firm, Delta Oil, which had close ties to the Taliban during Osama bin Laden's heyday in Afghanistan in the late 1990s. In discussions of graft via Oil-for-Food, it has been assumed that the windfall profits were largely kicked back to Saddam, or perhaps used to sway prominent politicians and buy commercial lobbying clout. But that begs further inquiry. There was every opportunity here for Saddam not solely to pocket the plunder, but to send it along to whomever he chose — once he had tapped into the appropriate networks.
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