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04-22-2004, 06:23 PM
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Too Good For Post Numbers
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Originally posted by Sidd Finch
I'm confused too, but if you are rejecting the notion that women should not be allowed to choose women doctors, I'll have to disagree. And, according to my OB-GYN family member, there are plenty of women who will choose male doctors instead of female, for whatever reason.
I've also chosen male doctors, therapists, physical trainers, etc. in part because of their sex, and that's my right as an individual consumer.
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Would race be an appropriate factor?
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04-22-2004, 06:23 PM
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Flaired.
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Originally posted by ltl/fb
Do you have a certificate or something? Maybe something handed down to you by God?
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You wouldn't be implying that someone who posts here might behave irrationally in an argument are you? This could topple our carefully erected little world of perfect imaginary people! Please retract. Don't make me get a PB mod over here.
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04-22-2004, 06:24 PM
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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Substitute "Man" for "Asian" and I've seen many of women defend that view with respect to their choice of doctor/obstetrician/etc. (and Woman/men, too).
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Goes for men and that "turn your head and cough" thing, too. actually, men are a lot worse about the gender stuff for "personal" things like massage (no way not a man!!!) "turn your head and cough" (no way not a woman!!!!) and even anal sex (no way not on a man!!!! come on over here, wifey!)
I'm seeing . . . I dunno . . . it seems like there's a distinction between a preference as to who is sticking their hands up my cooter* and a hiring policy.
*I've actually had both male and female and don't really care that much.
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04-22-2004, 06:25 PM
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I am beyond a rank!
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Originally posted by bilmore
To be clear, though, it speaks volumes about him, not about liberals or racists.
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You need a job as my editor?
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04-22-2004, 06:26 PM
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#2540
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Too Good For Post Numbers
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Originally posted by Sidd Finch
You need a job as my editor?
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Let me finish this call I'm on, and I'll tell you if I need a job.
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04-22-2004, 06:31 PM
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Too Lazy to Google
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Originally posted by bilmore
Let me finish this call I'm on, and I'll tell you if I need a job.
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I can never get away with posting while on a phone call. The other party ends up hearing it. I try to say I am just taking notes about what they are saying, but I think they know the truth.
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04-22-2004, 06:32 PM
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Moderator
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Originally posted by Sidd Finch
That you equate "liberal" on one side with "racist" on the other speaks volumes.
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Because I'm obviously such a young republican.
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04-22-2004, 06:34 PM
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Originally posted by Sidd Finch
I've also chosen male doctors, therapists, physical trainers, etc. in part because of their sex, and that's my right as an individual consumer.
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This could speak volumes, and with therapy you'll get to the party of the library where they're housed.
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04-22-2004, 06:41 PM
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Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
I agree that both accusations are (often) used by people who want to thoughtlessly dismiss opinions instead of arguing against them (as you will concede that, on occasion, a dismissive charge of being irrationally PC might be entirely accurate, just as a charge of racism might be).
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As Jerry Seinfeld might say, that's all I'm saying.
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04-22-2004, 06:56 PM
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I am beyond a rank!
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Originally posted by bilmore
Would race be an appropriate factor?
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I'm not sure. I would say no automatically, but if a person living in an insular ethnic community feels the need to have a doctor of her own ethnicity to see on immensely personal, private medical issues, should she have that right?
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04-22-2004, 06:58 PM
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Classified
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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Because I'm obviously such a young republican.
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Nice posting today, SD.
My advice? Become a father. If you survive the initial shock it will teach you how cool the world is all over again.
[Plus, you will have the chance to mold a young mind! Mwaahahahahaaa!]
S_A_M (I don't golf, but may be balding.)
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04-22-2004, 07:07 PM
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Flaired.
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Quote:
Originally posted by Sidd Finch
I'm not sure. I would say no automatically, but if a person living in an insular ethnic community feels the need to have a doctor of her own ethnicity to see on immensely personal, private medical issues, should she have that right?
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Of course if a person cares about his/her doctor's race then race would be an appropriate factor for that person. No one should be going to a doctor with whom they are uncomfortable. Whatever factors a person uses are the appropriate factors for doctor selection (whether on plan, gender, religion, race, whatever). That said, a person does not have any sort of right to have doctors of a certain race, gender or religion covered by his/her health plan. And all of us would likely agree that a person who turns down a good specialist based on race is foolish. But it is his/her right to do so.
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04-22-2004, 07:10 PM
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Too Lazy to Google
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Quote:
Originally posted by Sidd Finch
I'm not sure. I would say no automatically, but if a person living in an insular ethnic community feels the need to have a doctor of her own ethnicity to see on immensely personal, private medical issues, should she have that right?
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Why limit it to an insular ethnic community? What about non-insular communities?
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04-22-2004, 07:10 PM
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I am beyond a rank!
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Originally posted by notcasesensitive
Of course if a person cares about his/her doctor's race then race would be an appropriate factor for that person. No one should be going to a doctor with whom they are uncomfortable. Whatever factors a person uses are the appropriate factors for doctor selection (whether on plan, gender, religion, race, whatever). That said, a person does not have any sort of right to have doctors of a certain race, gender or religion covered by his/her health plan. And all of us would likely agree that a person who turns down a good specialist based on race is foolish. But it is his/her right to do so.
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Thanks.
When you have a minute, look up "rhetorical question" in the dictionary.
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04-22-2004, 07:11 PM
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Originally posted by Not Me
Why limit it to an insular ethnic community? What about non-insular communities?
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I was giving an example to make a point.
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