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04-01-2004, 04:57 PM
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#331
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This About Sums it Up
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Originally posted by sgtclub
It must be really frustrating when 95% of the country does not agree with you, no matter how many times you repeat it.
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I don't see how the public's ignorance has anything to do with whether Bush lied or not. Unless you're saying that he's a good liar. If so, I agree. If we go by your statistics, he's an excellent liar. Machiavelli would be proud.
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04-01-2004, 04:58 PM
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#332
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Hello, Dum-Dum.
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This About Sums it Up
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Originally posted by sgtclub
It must be really frustrating when 95% of the country does not agree with you, no matter how many times you repeat it.
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Clubby, you've been an embattled minority in S.F. too long. It's not a perfect inversion of national thought here. But you can comfort yourself with the thought that being in a 5% minority here necessarily means you're in a 95% majority nationwide. Rethink your media choices. I think a related phenomenon causes men to overestimate their penis length and then underestimate their percentile.
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04-01-2004, 04:59 PM
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#333
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Serenity Now
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This About Sums it Up
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Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
I don't see how the public's ignorance has anything to do with whether Bush lied or not. Unless you're saying that he's a good liar. If so, I agree. If we go by your statistics, he's an excellent liar. Machiavelli would be proud.
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Right, it's the other guys fault.
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04-01-2004, 05:03 PM
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#334
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This About Sums it Up
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Originally posted by sgtclub
Right, it's the other guys fault.
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Don't know whose fault it is. Just know that all three statements Ty posted were false. But this is interesting:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4640604/
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04-01-2004, 05:07 PM
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#335
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Serenity Now
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This About Sums it Up
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Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
Don't know whose fault it is. Just know that all three statements Ty posted were false. But this is interesting:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4640604/
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The statements being false and the conclusion that Bush lied are not the same.
The cite you link to is more of the same dribble and contains the faulty assumption that it is in the interest of our "allies" to go along with us. France, for one, doesn't believe so, and it has taken fairly aggressive moves to make this perfectly clear (e.g., joint military exercises with China). Ditto for Russia (a sort of ally). Germany is currently on the fence because there is no consensus internally.
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04-01-2004, 05:18 PM
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#336
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This About Sums it Up
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Originally posted by sgtclub
The statements being false and the conclusion that Bush lied are not the same.
The cite you link to is more of the same dribble and contains the faulty assumption that it is in the interest of our "allies" to go along with us. France, for one, doesn't believe so, and it has taken fairly aggressive moves to make this perfectly clear (e.g., joint military exercises with China). Ditto for Russia (a sort of ally). Germany is currently on the fence because there is no consensus internally.
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Maybe I should have cited Coulter. She's credible. In the fucking cuckoos nest.
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04-01-2004, 05:25 PM
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This About Sums it Up
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Originally posted by sgtclub
The statements being false and the conclusion that Bush lied are not the same.
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Board Motto.
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04-01-2004, 05:30 PM
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#338
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This About Sums it Up
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Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
Clarke was out of the loop.
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Loved the little bit on Leno last night:
So why is it that Cheney thinks saying Clarke was "out of the loop" reflects badly on Clarke. After all, isn't it a bad thing for the administration's anti-terrorism efforts if they're keeping the guy in charge of fighting terrorism out of the loop?
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04-01-2004, 05:34 PM
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Don't touch there
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Your tax dollars at work
Why don't we just put everyone in the government on the Bush/Cheney '04 payroll?
"WASHINGTON The Treasury Department directed career employees to analyze tax ideas proposed by presidential candidate John F. Kerry and other Democrats after a request from House Majority Leader Tom DeLay (R-Texas), officials said Wednesday."
link-a-dink-a-doo
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04-01-2004, 05:36 PM
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Consigliere
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This About Sums it Up
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sgtclub
It must be really frustrating when 95% of the country does not agree with you, no matter how many times you repeat it.
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You forget the power of the internet. Tyrone actually lives in Paris.
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04-01-2004, 05:51 PM
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#341
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Consigliere
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This About Sums it Up
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sgtclub
It must be really frustrating when 95% of the country does not agree with you, no matter how many times you repeat it.
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You forget the power of the internet. Tyrone actually lives in Paris.
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04-01-2004, 05:54 PM
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What's 444 days of captivity among allies?
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Did you just call me Coltrane?
Maybe I should have cited Coulter. She's credible. In the fucking cuckoos nest.
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You cited who?
Oh yes. Zbigniew Brzezinski. An old fossil from that era of tranquility known as the Carter administration.
Well, no surprise here that he'd let the world tell us how to act.
After all, both the Opec oil crisis and the Iran hostage crisis happened on his watch.
The guy handing out LaRouche flyers outside my office has more cred than this asshat.
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04-01-2004, 05:59 PM
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What's 444 days of captivity among allies?
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
You cited who?
Zbigniew Brzezinski.
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Gesundheit
Citing Eugene Debs is less extreme than Coulter.
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04-01-2004, 06:05 PM
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#344
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Moderasaurus Rex
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This About Sums it Up
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Originally posted by sgtclub
It must be really frustrating when 95% of the country does not agree with you, no matter how many times you repeat it.
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Heh. This is from Gallup this week:
12. Do you think George W. Bush has or has not misled the public for political reasons?
Yes, has 53%
No, has not 44%
No opinion 3%
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04-01-2004, 06:06 PM
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I am beyond a rank!
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This About Sums it Up
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Originally posted by sgtclub
It must be really frustrating when 95% of the country does not agree with you, no matter how many times you repeat it.
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Don't feel so bad for Bush -- when he first told those lies, a majority of the country did agree with him. That's kind of the problem.
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