Politics: J'accuse!

[sgtclub]

FALLUJAH, Iraq (AP) - A former Saddam Hussein-era general appointed by the Americans to lead an Iraqi security force in the rebellious Sunni stronghold of Fallujah urged tribal elders and sheiks Sunday to support U.S. efforts to stabilize Iraq.

Retired Maj. Gen. Mohammed Abdul-Latif rose to prominence after nearly monthlong battles last month between the Marines monthlong battles in April between the Marines and insurgents hunkered down in Fallujah's neighborhoods.

"We can make them (Americans) use their rifles against us or we can make them build our country, it's your choice," Latif told a gathering of more than 40 sheiks, city council members and imams in an eastern Fallujah suburb.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040516/D82JRHQ80.html

[Say_hello_for_me]

Originally posted by sgtclub
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040516/D82JRHQ80.html

I read the full article a few hours ago, trying to avoid going home from the office on a lovely sunday. What the guy said was beautiful, particularly if sincere.

I don't care who they vote for or what they want. These people just need to be convinced that the only way we don't leave, is at the point of a gun.

The fact that Bush has had such a hard time getting that message across (including my whole election/democracy issue) almost makes me suspicious that its not his message. Or at least maybe not Wolfy's and Rummy's.

If this guy works out, somebody in the Marine corps deserves the Nobel Peace Prize.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
"If they get out"? Looks like we have two different dictionaries already.

among necrophilliacs, do the guys who get their dates at the morgue look down on guys who dig their dates up?

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by Sexual Harassment Panda
None of the above won over 50%??? What was the story behind that?

Have a case in PR and you'll understand. They file Informative Motions informing the Court that they will file another motion. Curiously, they do not file Informative Motions notifying the Court of their intent to file and Informative Motion.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
I'm pretty sure Karl Rove agrees that this polling data is interesting, but he probably has a different meaning in mind.

Valerie Plame.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by bilmore
If I remember correctly, when we gave up the "party of fiscal restraint" decoder rings and badges to them, they got the "party of the individual" sets thrown in free. Thankfully, they still can't do "world domination" for shit.

Flightless winged waterfoul, please. My ancestors were memorialized in Sumerian tables while your ancestors were still . . . um . . . I don't know. What did your ancestors do? Eat fish? Open doors? Fly, bilmore?

So you think your party is proficient - or even practiced - at World Domination? No, bilmore, no. Your "party" (tee hee, I giggle that the frivolity has been provided such appropriate appellation) came closer to the secret of world domination when it preached limited governement. It was the perfect Trojan Horse: "Government does not work. Elect us and prove it." And the Trojan Horse sells. Heard of Brad Pitt lately?

But I like you, bilmore. You show much promise. Or you did at one point. So at great risk to both of us, I offer you this primer on World Domination. And I offer it terms you can understand. In Ws. The "who, what, when, where, why" of World Domination, as we like to explain to the newly illuminated.

Who, bilmore, who?

Heh, well certainly not your quaintly named "party." I thought yoiu guys were on to something with your talk of "limited governement" and "rights of the individual" (see Trojan Horse, supra). But you showed your hand with Ashcroft generally and the Patriot Act in particular. Throw in Rumsfeld, Wolowitz, and Perle and you may as well call it the Trojan War Machine That Will Crush You . Sometimes nuance helps.

What, bilmore, what?

Make sure you know what you want. World Domination sounds sexy, but it isn't easy. As Powell observed, it's like the Pottery Barn - you break it, you own it. The Freemasons tried WD, and came up with some cool symbology, but figured out that all they could do was break bricks. Jews are a convenient target, but godammit, you couldn't get them to agree on an appetizer, much less the desirability of an ARM. Don't get me wrong, they have done good work in the past (that 40 years in the wilderness was hilarious), but they were hindered by the lack of vowells in the beginning. Look at the cover of the The Nation this month and you'll agree.

[bold]When, bilmore, when?[/bold] I thought you would have been more comfortable with the passing of The Millenium (whatever the Western calendar). I know you've spent a good deal of time stuck in airports re-reading The Da Vinci Code lately, but - Deus Me! - your Millenium is so solar system-centric. Ew. Reset the decoder ring. Better yet, don't wear rings. Or necklaces. Another hint: Ancient People weren't particularly wise, they were just Ancient. Or quit reading The Da Vinci Code. You can find more secrets of World Domination in the chick-lit section. Check out "The Devil Wears Prada."

Where, bilmore, where?

Make sure you know what you want. I mean, Iraq? You really want it? My ancestors landed in Sumer, but it was kind of a typo (they just wanted to go to Summer - and the travel brochures looked nice). You've got Arizona, why Iraq?

Why, bilmore, why?

I know why I crave World Domination. I am superior, my species is superior, and my dad can beat up your dad. I exploit species like you for fun and feathers. Be grateful for chum and ice. And cold weather.

I realize that a simple mind like yours might have other questions, such as "How."

How , bilmore, how?

I haven't perfected this yet, but the whole humility and anti-nation-building approach doesn't seem to be working. I see you've tried torture, rape, and murder, which don't seem to be working either. Have you thought of diplomacy as a last resort?

[Say_hello_for_me]

Breaking on CNN, found in an artillery shell rigged as an IED.

See CNN dot com

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by Say_hello_for_me
Breaking on CNN, found in an artillery shell rigged as an IED.

See CNN dot com

And that guy who was head of the provisional gov't or something was car bombed. Some other guy has been appointed to take his place for the 15 (or is it 14 now?) days until power is handed over.

[Say_hello_for_me]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
And that guy who was head of the provisional gov't or something was car bombed. Some other guy has been appointed to take his place for the 15 (or is it 14 now?) days until power is handed over.

They've been getting pretty good at bombings recently. Not just Iraq. The assassination in Chechnya was brillian if, in fact, it was a bomb planted in concrete months before it was triggered.

Ditto last week's APC attacks in the occupied territories.

Not believing in coincidence, it seems like they are getting good intelligence on movement in the Green zone in Baghdad.

Not clapping, just giving terrorists credit for being clever.

Hello

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
And that guy who was head of the provisional gov't or something was car bombed. Some other guy has been appointed to take his place for the 15 (or is it 14 now?) days until power is handed over.

45 or 44. Not good, either way.

Why are we trying to keep Iraq as a single country?

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
45 or 44. Not good, either way.

Why are we trying to keep Iraq as a single country?

It's July 1? OK. Sorry. Wow, I look stupid. No big change, I guess.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
45 or 44. Not good, either way.

Why are we trying to keep Iraq as a single country?

Nation building. And to prove that our invasion will not lead to the balkinization of Iraq.

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)

Why are we trying to keep Iraq as a single country?

I have been having this thought as well. It would seem far easier to attempt to break up Iraq into at least 3 countries (Shia, Sunni, and Kurd), but as I recall the Turks do not want a separate Kurdish country for fear it would cause an uprising of their own Kurdish population.

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by sgtclub
I have been having this thought as well. It would seem far easier to attempt to break up Iraq into at least 3 countries (Shia, Sunni, and Kurd), but as I recall the Turks do not want a separate Kurdish country for fear it would cause an uprising of their own Kurdish population.

Why do we care what the Turks want?

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
Why do we care what the Turks want?

And, if it causes and uprising, perhaps there's a reason for it. Is Turkey being territorial and keeping its Kurds just to keep the land?

Besides, didn't they tell us to fuck off when we wanted to use their air bases for operations in Iraq?