Politics: J'accuse!

[Not Me]

I don't know if I can watch it.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by Not Me
Right 'cuz the fact that Clarke wrote it in a book that he is selling for profit (now that he no longer has a job) proves that it is true.

I thought conservatives were comfortable with the profit motive.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by Not Me
I don't know if I can watch it.

Jon Stewart's gotta love this.

[Sexual Harassment Panda]

Originally posted by Not Me
I don't know if I can watch it.

Don't worry. After three-plus years, everyone's expectations are already sub-basement.

Kind of like having a special needs child. You just hope for different things from them.

[Not Me]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
I thought conservatives were comfortable with the profit motive.

Comfortable with someone being able to make a profit doesn't mean that we are so stupid we don't believe that it would influence someone or bias them.

I don't know whether Clarke is lying and I don't know if Ashcroft is lying. All I can know is what they said and whether there is any evidence to back up what they said, like documents and others' testimony that agrees with their version of events.

But just because Clarke said one thing and Ashcroft said another thing doesn't prove that Ashcroft is lying.

Often times two people attend the same meeting or witness the same event and their recollections of the meeting or the vent are different. This doesn't mean one is lying, necessarily, though. Sometimes people have faulty memories, sometimes their memories are colored by subsequent events, and sometimes they are falsifying facts. You figure out what actually happened by looking at any objective evidence that is available and getting others' versions of the events in question.

But you don't just jump to the conclusion that the person whose version best suits your political agenda must be the giving an accurate account.

[Secret_Agent_Man]

Originally posted by Not Me
I would think the marshalls are answerable to someone in the executive branch. What federal agency are they a part of?

You're kidding, right?

S_A_M

[Not Me]

Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
You're kidding, right?

S_A_M

I wasn't sure if they are now part of homeland security but I just checked and that is the secret service that got moved from treasury to DHS.

I always thought it was odd that the secret service is part of the Treasury Dept. I suppose there is some historical reason for this and if I cared enough about it, I would google it, but I don't.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
This is untrue. From Clarke's book:

"The first time I had propsed a snatch, in 1993,

fuck- I had to edit because ss made the snatch joke in his post- i didn't read the whole thing

and everyone is quoting ss posts that I can't find- fringe and maybe notme about ss wanting to judge who one. where are these posts? I cannot find them.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
Hank's first post today was not a "disagreement" with me, nor an invitation to "debate substance." It was an attack, plain and simple, in which he accused me of being biased against Koreans and Italians. I responded by calling him the racist piece of shit that he is. Yes, I went over the top -- that was intentional, and intended to annoy him. I know, that was dangerous -- I risked his rapier-like wit calling me "stupid" again -- or maybe even "really, really stupid." Such is life.

You chose to use anti-Italian slurs the moment I identified myself as Italian. This speaks volumes about who you are.

people who actually read this crap have their opinions of both of us, I'm comfortable with that.

You go overboard for people posting slurs- that speaks "volumes."
You post things that show you think in ways that want to confine people to little boxes where you can visualize them- thats okay and not at all bad.
again, To all thinking people, your mindset is clear.

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
That, and its a real bitch driving to San Jose during rush hour.

No, it's because Repubs are not good with the whole sex thing. and yet, they breed.

[Not Me]

Originally posted by Not Me
I don't know if I can watch it.

Ok, it wasn't that bad. I give him a B- (a real B-, not say a Stanford B-, which is a D everywhere else).

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
No, it's because Repubs are not good with the whole sex thing.

When you dated the Repubs, was it during a counter-cultural "bathing and smelling clean is something men force on women" phase? I know it makes me an incomplete lover, but I gotta eat with this tongue.

[Not Me]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
No, it's because Repubs are not good with the whole sex thing. and yet, they breed.

Have you had sex with a Rep?

I have had good sex with both Reps and Dems, although most of the guys I have been with are Reps. The only Reps I have had sex with were the libertarian kind of Reps. I would never have sex with a religious conservative. They probably wouldn't want to have sex with me, either. Too incompatible.

I have been pretty lucky in that I enjoyed most sexual experiences I have had. Not saying I have orgasmed everytime, but sex can still be good without an orgasm. I think it took me at least 2 years of having sex to be able to come during sex.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by The Larry Davis Experience
Your earlier post found a way to lay blame for the recent spending spree at the feet of the Dem minority in the senate. I thought that was a stretch. I was not clever enough to make that interesting, or even evident.

I was unclear. The blame, in my mind, lies with Bush. His motivation, in part, was to assuage some of the Dems. (See Teddy's education bill, for example). I blame Bush for this ineffectual stab at trying to make nice with people who are never going to make nice with him. I don't think he needed to do what he did. So, no I don't blame the Dem minority. I blame Bush.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
-- kinda like Bilmore's effort to blame Bush's spending on the (minority) Senate Dems --

What, do you guys just keep repeating each other until you think your mistakes become Truth through simple repetition?

Oh, yeah. That's right. Bush lied. The museum died.

Sheesh.