Fashion Board 5-7-04 to 6-9-04

Originally posted by str8outavannuys
Dunderhead: I joined the Sting fan club so that I could buy primo tickets and put them on eBay. That may preclude my hipsterness in your book, and that's fine, but please don't have the impression that I like Sting, or own any Sting albums, or have ever been to a Sting concert. (Though I do own Synchronicity, but I'll defend that, as it's a very fine album).

Sorry, but the fact thta you knew there was a Sting fan club, or that it occurred to you to find one, is prima facie evidence that you are a tool.

now answer my poll.

[ABBAKiss]

Originally posted by sunnybunny
I was every tattoo-artist-to-be's little skater betty.

So how many tattoos do you have?

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
If some firm is looking for a 2 year person, then they are going to be expecting to get resumes from people who are proposing to leave a current job even though they've only been there 2 years or so.

Don't they almost always ask for: 0-2 (recent grad), 2-5, 5+ or 10+?

[dtb]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
And 2 years is too short to change jobs? Eh? I thought a job reached its sell-by date in two years. The only problem is if you don't like the next job and you want to change again.

True.

My husband left his first job after three months. Now he's a fancy executive! I left my first job after eighteen months. I'm not a fancy executive, but still...

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
It should be obvious, but you do have to clear with the firm and the client any memo that is attorney work product or client communication. redacting isn't enough.

And 2 years is too short to change jobs? Eh? I thought a job reached its sell-by date in two years. The only problem is if you don't like the next job and you want to change again.

You can changes jobs as frequently as you like if you can explain it and it made sense to do so (forwarded your career and/or cash and provided better experience). Simply put, its not a negative to be seen as moving up. Moving sideways is bad.

As to the person who wrote "fungible" litigators are always needed, I disagree. I have found many firms see litigators who bounce around through various areas as problematic. I know firsthand. People like the idea that you've tried a case, argued piles of motions and taken deps in tough subjects areas, but then they ask you what your specialty is and you've got nothing to say but "Comm lit." Knowing the civ pro handbook is nice, but frankly, the gigs at large firms (which I assume Coltrane is going for) involve complex cases where there's little court time, and if there is, the argument/hearing is staffed by a partner to maximize fees.

Specialize. Sure, its boring as hell, but its more marketable in my experience than being fast on your feet in the courtroom. My dweeby pals who went into specialized stuff may have boring as hell careers, but my guess is, they'll do every bit as well, if not better, than me, running my mouth off for judges and taking deps. But some of us aren't born for desk work. Hence, my mountainous pile of posts. Sitting, proofing and thinking about legal issues all day and writing memos just ain't going to happen for me. When I sit, I fool around.

[Not Bob]

Originally posted by sunnybunny
I really can't say except that I haven't grown in any way much since then, so I think it was the punk rock skater girl with long shapely legs thing. I had blonde hair down to my ass and a collection of like 20 differnet pairs of vans. I was every tattoo-artist-to-be's little skater betty.

Did straight-edge teen girls put out? I thought that just saying no to home runs was part of the creed.

(uh oh -- a hanging curve. well, so be it.)

[robustpuppy]

Originally posted by ABBAKiss
How would FCOB know what your swimsuit area looked like?

My point was just that having used the teenaged asian hooker phrase you ought to know that some men like that look and will hit on girls who look like that, even if those girls are 18 or over. I was a skinny flat chested innocent thing until about 15-16 and from about age 12 on there were several incidents where a perv ranging in age from 21-71 tried to pay me some inappropriate attention. It happened to plenty of my friends too, not exclusively the early developers (you bitches!). They just attracted a different type.

[Mister_Ruysbroeck]

Originally posted by paigowprincess
I understaned whyyou moved but cant remember how it was that you got the chance. My point was that Coltrane may have a negative in his resume by only have two years or whatever at htis work place. Not a negative for his career so much as for his desirabilty to potential employers.

of course, it depends on twhether he has an area of expertise or is some fungible ligtigator type who learend everything he needws to know in Civ Pro.

People always say things like "you can't move too soon. you've got to get some experience or it will look bad on your resume."

I say BS. I am a habitual job-hopper. I finally found something I like, but it took me 4 tries. First job was 6 months. Second was 2 years. Third was 1 year.

When I was thinking about leaving job three, a couple people told me I should stick it out for a couple more years so I didn't look like a job hopper. My response was: if someone will hire me right now, why should I continue to subject myself to this shitty job for another year or two?

If you send the resumes out and get no bites, then you'll be sticking around one way or another, so it can't really hurt to send them out.

[ABBAKiss]

Originally posted by robustpuppy
My point was.......

I mostly just wanted sunny to admit she was a whore.

[robustpuppy]

Originally posted by ABBAKiss
I mostly just wanted sunny to admit she was a whore.

Uh, sorry. Jet lag.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
And 2 years is too short to change jobs? Eh? I thought a job reached its sell-by date in two years. The only problem is if you don't like the next job and you want to change again.

A different period applies in DC, much the same way Mercury orbits the Sun faster than Mars or Pluto.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by ABBAKiss
I mostly just wanted sunny to admit she was a whore.

Didn't quite get there, but the skater betty part was pretty good. Nice job.

Originally posted by ltl/fb
If some firm is looking for a 2 year person, then they are going to be expecting to get resumes from people who are proposing to leave a current job even though they've only been there 2 years or so.

OK, but then he is looking at a firm that just wants a body and isnt doing "opportunistic hiring" as one large prominent firm recently described it to me. Unless they think the Coltrane creds are so stellar (ie 4.0 at harvard and editor of law review, etc etc) that the fact that he has only been at his job two years is somthing that can be overlooked. If you were a firm that wanted a good stable happy worker bee, wouldnt you prefer someone who was at a job for a longer period of time thatn the first semi credible chance to jump ship?

Either Coltrane decided to apply to some great firm that he has special reasons for wanting to go to (knows the people, knows the practice area he does is top notch and or unique to that firm, etc) or he is doing a major search and looking at anyone who would look at him, And who wants someone with only two years? Either a firm that has had attrition bc its a shitty place to work or a firm that just became busier, meaning tht it was less busy and probably is on some kind of hire/fire cycle unless it was part of some merger of soe sort. Its likely a bum deal anyway you slice it.

My guess is Coltrane either got in a fight with the roomie or knocked up Sequels and is in a hurry to score some dinero, and the firm who wants th writing sampel (what?!?) probably isnt gonna be the best place to work. Who fucking wants a writing sampel anyway? Your creds should speak for themselves.

ANd I would add that asking for grades is just as recockulous.

[sunnybunny]

Originally posted by ABBAKiss
I mostly just wanted sunny to admit she was a whore.

I have no tattoos and didn't put out back then. But I have exactly 4 friends from my teen years who are now professional tattoo artists, so i was some sort of magnet...a white canvas waiting to be used, if you will. I was 5'8" by 14, so I guess I at least looked tall enough to be a flat-chested older person. the alarm clock looked like a chicken and when the alarm went off it said "wake up, wake up, it's the funky chicken alarm clock" or some such nonsense.

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
You can changes jobs as frequently as you like if you can explain it and it made sense to do so (forwarded your career and/or cash and provided better experience). Simply put, its not a negative to be seen as moving up. Moving sideways is bad.

As to the person who wrote "fungible" litigators are always needed, I disagree. I have found many firms see litigators who bounce around through various areas as problematic. I know firsthand. People like the idea that you've tried a case, argued piles of motions and taken deps in tough subjects areas, but then they ask you what your specialty is and you've got nothing to say but "Comm lit." Knowing the civ pro handbook is nice, but frankly, the gigs at large firms (which I assume Coltrane is going for) involve complex cases where there's little court time, and if there is, the argument/hearing is staffed by a partner to maximize fees.

Specialize. Sure, its boring as hell, but its more marketable in my experience than being fast on your feet in the courtroom. My dweeby pals who went into specialized stuff may have boring as hell careers, but my guess is, they'll do every bit as well, if not better, than me, running my mouth off for judges and taking deps. But some of us aren't born for desk work. Hence, my mountainous pile of posts. Sitting, proofing and thinking about legal issues all day and writing memos just ain't going to happen for me. When I sit, I fool around.

Why do you constantly take something that someone said, add a couple of words to the original sentence and then do a two paragraph rant on something that is totally out of context and has nothing to do with the author's original statement?