Fashion Board 5-7-04 to 6-9-04

[spookyfish]

Originally posted by NotFromHere
I know that Diana, if she loses, when she loses will blame her loss on the fact that she got lost on that last song and was so far off pitch that she couldn't cover. But I think she was already losing. And Simon needs to know when to shut up. Whenever he gushes, that spurs that pity vote for the other person. That said, I've been calling for Fantasia and only got through 4 times on any of the 3 numbers. I hope that's a good sign because if Diana wins, I'm going to start believing the conspiracy theories.

Go Fantasia!

Am I the only one who thinks that this is going to be close? I mean, they both had a not-so-good performance, but the unfortunate thing for Diana is she had hers last. I can't get past the fact that both of these singers annoy me somewhat, Fantasia with her yeah, yeah, yeah's and Diana's tendency toward shrillness. Does anyone besides Simon believe that Fantasia is the best contestant ever? I predict there's going to be a bit of a backlash too.

This also gives me an opportunity to segue into what may be the most entertaining show ever. Unless I missed the discussion on the board, allow me to recommend the WB's Superstar USA, which I accidentally stumbled upon last week. This show is a straight rip-off of American Idol, except the judges are looking for the worst singer possible. The twist on it is that the people are led to believe by the judges that they are talented. In the span of two weeks, they've shown auditions, the final twelve, and they've pared the field down to eight of the most untalented singers I've ever seen. What's more, the "finalists" are going to be given the royal treatment -- shopping for mansions, expensive clothing and cars, along with image makeovers in preparation for the star lifestyle they are led to believe they are going to lead. At the end of the show, they are going to tell the contestants that the whole thing is an elaborate ruse.


The judges for the show are Tone Loc, Vitamin C and some record producer guy named Briggs. The host is a Seacrest clone. Some of the best moments I have seen so far.

An androgynous asian guy who sings like a woman.

A guy looked like a cross between Steven Wright and a serial killer. The guy was bald on top, with a huge mullet in the back, all dressed in black and butchered "Born to be Wild" during his audition. From Briggs: "I like the look -- very different. Bald and a mullet. You should call it a skullet."

To another rather hot looking late 30'sish mom. Briggs: "Are you familiar with the term MILF? Well you are a MILF. A Mother I'd like to. . . fly to Hollywood."

A really bad white rapper -- a suburban wannabe gangsta. From Tone Loc: "Maybe you should rap about surfing, you know, keep it real."

An asian woman who while singing does this strange high kicks while dancing, which sparked a debate among the judges on whether this was feeding into negative stereotypes about asians.

A tone deaf guy whose main dance move is the "head waggle".

Excellent, excellent stuff. As fast as the show is progressing though, I only imagine it will be on another week or two, so watch it while you can.

http://www.thewb.com/Shows/GenericSh...169159,00.html

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by ironweed
Translation: I like to say "Rawhide" as often as possible. Rawhide. Rawhide. Mmmmmm.

Question: Are you mad because no one showed up to your greased-up-male-GA outing to Rawhide? Or is it the $28,000 you dropped there?

TM

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by paigowprincess
Thank you for picking up the stupid argument slack since I cant do it right now. What troubles me is that Coltrane's 2 friends from the UC (I assume Chicago and not Colo or CAlif) have no work experience yet a full one hundred percent of the UC class has the work expereience. Who is lyinghere? Coltrane or UC?

ETA- whoops, that was the 03 entering class. presumably coltranes friends are not 03 since I think they graduated. May be it was only ninety eight percent when they were there and they got around the "tradition" by doing good deeds for Lamba Lamda

You said two years of business-work experience, not work experience in general.

They have work experience, just not your typical i-banking shit.

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by bill killer
OK, since it's slow, here's a poll: What's the suckiest (stupidest, most embarrassing, whatever) actual name that you have encountered? Combinations are also ok, such as law firm names - example: there used to be a law firm in Rhode Island known as Licht & Semonoff (they have since changed their name)).

Anita Hooker

I've met her.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by Alex_de_Large
Jon Stewart recently gave the commencement address at William and Mary. Definitely worth a read.

Sebby hangs out on John Stewart's stoop?*

TM

* No mirror was mentioned.

[mmm3587]

I was all busy and shit most of yesterday, so I missed all the reindeer games re: Coltrane's job hunt. A few musings:

It looks like the bloom has come off the rose that is the April-August romance of Coltrane and Paigow.

For a writing sample, I would use anything that had been filed publicly, but still redact it. Refact it in a word processor, not on a paper copy. I also would not hesitate to remove entire paragraphs that might be identifying, but make sure to note their exclusion.

Colrtane, you're a 2002 grad, right? There is nothing wrong with moving, if you're doing it for the right reasons. I am a 2000 grad and moved during Summer 2001 and again (between offices of the same firm) in Summer 2002.

When did you start at your firm? If it was Fall 2002, it will probably be two full years by the time you move anyway, which is fine. The key, though, is making a move that looks good and well thought out. I would not have wanted to move between firms again as soon as I did, but there's certainly nothing wrong with an inter-firm move earlier than your third year. If your move would be to a larger firm, it's even easier to explain.

I'm not sure if Paigow is just busting your balls so that she can gently stroke them soon, mired in DC and unaware how the rest of the world works, or just that clueless. But the days of a move early in an associate's career marking him for years are long over. They've been over since at least the early 90s, when large firms first demonstrated that they would fuck their associates if they had to.

However, seriously consider the "grass is always greener on the other side" issue. I know a lot of people who have made moves with which they were ultimately unhappy. But I was really happy with mine...

[mmm3587]

I know tons of people who have gone or are going to business school at U of C ("GSB") and Northwestern ("Kellogg"). Almost all of them have some work experience. However, it's not like they're all did things that were that relevant to business school. For some of them, the work experience was completely irrelevant. It's just a barrier to entry, because business shools want to graduate older, more accomplished students, blah blah blah. Plus, I think your two years as a lawyer, Coltrane, would be considered more like three or four years some tool had in a marketing firm doing whateverthefuck those people do.

Second, if you don't have any attachment to being a lawyer or the profession, it's not a bad jump to make to go to business school, if you go to a good one. You will take a unique perspective and unique knowledge. I know a very few people who have managed to get an MBA over five years at night while working in law firms (only one was in Biglaw, and I still have no idea how she did it), and their opportunities have all expanded greatly.

But, without sounding too much like someone sebby will think is a tool cat or someone who teemy will think needs a mentor or a good ass-fucking, I do think that there is something special and unique about certain aspects of the practice of law. I won't go into a long diatribe about that here (since I have a full day of the stuff that is standard and boring about the practice of law ahead of me), but I think you should consider why you went to law school, whether you like the ways that law and other professions are different, and whether you want to give that up.

[mmm3587]

I went to high school with April Butt. Seriously.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
I've heard the debate between quant and qaulitative programs bandied about quite a bit by b school friends over the years (one friend who just finished Yale was really perturbed about the quant stuff and wishes she hadn't gone).

A family member has a business acting as middlemen distributing a sometimes-complex product which for years quant-minded folks have opined could much more easily be distributed directly to consumers. For years, people, including me, said the wise thing to do was sell the business, as it would soon be blown out by direct sales. However, contrary to these assertions, the business has in fact done better over the past seven years, as more and more people seem eager to buy the product from people, and expect greater customer service. What I see is that people in that particular market are becoming more and more dependent on others' doing their thinking for them and "servicing" them. Makes me wonder how a quant person would explain this uptick in full-service dependence. Technically, from the projections I read, the business should be sagging. My layman's theory has been that whoever wrote the projections did not take goodwill into account and did not consider that many people who buy direct are dissatisfied with corporate service, and that this creates a whiplash effect whereby people return to the old purchasing methods of buying from the guy who sells them the product directly, face to face.

I experienced it just last week when I chose to pay for a doctor's visit out of pocket. My health plan was (a) too complicated, and (b) simply too annoying. I did the math and decided "Fuck it, my time is more valuable" and paid the doc in cash.

Can we get a measurement here? I think we might have a new record for Longest Post Without a Point. I've read it, and I'm still not sure how you get from b-school curricula to paying your doctor in cash.

[Pretty Little Flower]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
"dick" names should be a separate catagory.

There is a car dealership here founded by Mr. Stark Hickey.

Indeed. More to the point, if your name is Richard Schmoker, which is the case for an attorney in town, you should really go by Rich, or Ricky, or maybe your middle name.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by mmm3587
But, without sounding too much like someone sebby will think is a tool cat or someone who teemy will think needs a mentor or a good ass-fucking...

1. I don't think it's possible for you to sound any other way.

2. My apologies to Ironweed, who it seems, was able to get someone to attend his greased-up-male-GA outing.

3. I think you can be both a tool cat and someone who needs a good ass-fucking.

4. It was nice of you to use the phrase "without sounding too much like" without prompting.

TM

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Can we get a measurement here?

Do you need a mirror?

TM

[ABBAKiss]

Originally posted by bold_n_brazen
I know someone named Candance Hart. She goes by Candy. I swear.

I think I've shared this before but there's a doctor in my church, Dr. Dick, whose first name is also Candace. Goes by Candace but for good reason.

"Dr. Candy Dick will see you now." Bount-chica-doun-doun....

[Aloha Mr. Learned Hand]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
"dick" names should be a separate catagory.

There is a car dealership here founded by Mr. Stark Hickey.

There's a local newscaster named Dick Johnson.

And of course, all the ladies love Colonel Angus...

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Can we get a measurement here? I think we might have a new record for Longest Post Without a Point. I've read it, and I'm still not sure how you get from b-school curricula to paying your doctor in cash.

Distilled: I dislike quant theory because I think it devalues the human element.