GO ABBA GO!!!

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by notcasesensitive
Rust belt. It actually is not the same. Have you lived in the midwest (Chicago doesn't really count)?

Damn you're good - I have indeed lived in Chicago.

I have had the pleasure of spending significant time in Southern Indiana and less significant time in Northern Michigan and in Iowa. Midwest? Much of upstate New York is oddly reminiscent of Southern Indiana.

Let's face it, most of the rust upstate has fully decayed and blown away. These days, it's farmland punctuated by ruins, with the occassional minor college or university (e.g., Syracuse, Hobart) nestled in the ruins and odd little suburbs adrift in the netherworlds between. The difference between eating white bread in the whistestop cafe in Southern Indiana farmland or Southern Tier New York farmland is insignificant.

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by bold_n_brazen
I've spent a bunch of time in Iowa, which I know doesn't really count, but still...

I would count that.

edited to change will to would.

[patentparanyc]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Damn you're good - I have indeed lived in Chicago.

I have had the pleasure of spending significant time in Southern Indiana and less significant time in Northern Michigan and in Iowa. Midwest? Much of upstate New York is oddly reminiscent of Southern Indiana.

Let's face it, most of the rust upstate has fully decayed and blown away. These days, it's farmland punctuated by ruins, with the occassional minor college or university (e.g., Syracuse, Hobart) nestled in the ruins and odd little suburbs adrift in the netherworlds between.

What do you define as upstate? Some even classify Rockland as upstate even though it is only 25 miles outside of the city. I do not define Rockland County as upstate.

Poughkeepsie although Vassar itself is a nice campus Poughkeepsie is a pit with Route 9 a strip mall in essence.

When we were in Columbia County that was nice. Nicer than Dutchess. I miss Chatham.

That being said I loved Chicago it was great with its wide avenues and concept of space less crowded than TCOTU.

I also have a girlfriend who lives in South Bend.

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Is that the South or Texas-East?

Fayetteville possibly is TX-East, but Little Rock is south, I think. I think Richmond plus Little Rock plus North Carolina equals time in the south, while if I just had Fayetteville and Arlington, VA, I possibly couldn't claim the south.

[notcasesensitive]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
Um, me? What area have you lived in that I haven't? And I have Arkansas.

Indiana, Columbus, Cincinnati. None of those are the least bit like Chicago (though they would like to be, I'm sure). Arkansas is not substantially different from Texas. I say we tie. You also missed out on Pennsylvania, if I recall correctly, but I won't lord that over you because I moved away when I was 8, so it doesn't really count. What age did you leave NY state??

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by notcasesensitive
Pennsylvania is not midwest. Are you insane? It is mid-Altlantic. Philly is closer to the coast than, well, San Bernardino (actually they're probably about the same distance but Philly is closer with traffic conditions). Pennsylvania is rust belt but it shares very little in common with Indiana, Iowa, etc. Ohio is a melange. Rust belt meets midwest. Fancy.


ETA: Who here has lived in more parts of the country than I have? Anyone? As far as I can tell, the only parts I've missed (of the continental US, that is) are the deep south, though I got tastes of that in Texas, and the northwest. I know everything there is to know about all other parts of the country. Everything.

did you know there are salmon in Lake Michigan?

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy


Let's face it, most of the rust upstate has fully decayed and blown away. These days, it's farmland punctuated by ruins, with the occassional minor college or university (e.g., Syracuse, Hobart) nestled in the ruins and odd little suburbs adrift in the netherworlds between. The difference between eating white bread in the whistestop cafe in Southern Indiana farmland or Southern Tier New York farmland is insignificant.

AoN, Communist Radio had a bit about a similar issue the other day. Flint, MI is foreclosing on abandoned houses and turning them into parks or other green areas, in an attempt to downsize gracefully. Presto, changeo - now we're rural!

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...oryId=15766619

Gattigap

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
How long must one work out consistently before one stops being kind of sore all the goddamn motherfucking time?

it's like AA; take it one day at a time, and pretty soon you're holding a 10 year pin.

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by notcasesensitive
Indiana, Columbus, Cincinnati. None of those are the least bit like Chicago (though they would like to be, I'm sure). Arkansas is not substantially different from Texas. I say we tie. You also missed out on Pennsylvania, if I recall correctly, but I won't lord that over you because I moved away when I was 8, so it doesn't really count. What age did you leave NY state??

The post-college Chicago people were pretty damn midwestern. We moved away from NY state when I was 8, but we came back every summer, all summer, for the next 4 or 5 years. See above re: central AR vs. football-heaven Fayetteville, and if Dallas counts as TX then Little Rock counts as south.

If you really want to tie, I will cede the midwest.

[patentparanyc]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
You say this only because you like to pretend that PA is somehow not really primarily in the midwest. Nice try. No go. It borders Ohio, which along with Nebraska is the epitome of the midwest.

How long must one work out consistently before one stops being kind of sore all the goddamn motherfucking time?

Should only take a few weeks.

When I started walking at lunch and running on weekends only took a few weeks to stop aching and feeling sore.

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
Fayetteville possibly is TX-East, but Little Rock is south, I think. I think Richmond plus Little Rock plus North Carolina equals time in the south, while if I just had Fayetteville and Arlington, VA, I possibly couldn't claim the south.

Wait. Fayetteville, AR, or Fayetteville, NC?

If the latter, I think you get not just Southern "claiming" privileges, but also an I Escaped The South Notwithstanding Impossible Odds merit badge.

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by Gattigap
Wait. Fayetteville, AR, or Fayetteville, NC?

If the latter, I think you get not just Southern "claiming" privileges, but also an I Escaped The South Notwithstanding Impossible Odds merit badge.

I was speaking of Fayetteville, AR, where I have not lived but have visited. I also have not lived in, but have visited a lot, Northern VA which to me is very, very different from Richmond.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
.......in Northern Michigan

You lived there, or vacationed. big diff there.

Let's face it, most of the rust upstate has fully decayed and blown away. These days, it's farmland punctuated by ruins, with the occassional minor college or university (e.g., Syracuse, Hobart) nestled in the ruins and odd little suburbs adrift in the netherworlds between. The difference between eating white bread in the whistestop cafe in Southern Indiana farmland or Southern Tier New York farmland is insignificant.

if you must crib from richard russo, I'd limit myself to nobody's fool.

[notcasesensitive]

Originally posted by patentparanyc
Should only take a few weeks.

When I started walking at lunch and running on weekends only took a few weeks to stop aching and feeling sore.

You feel sore from walking???

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

New Library of Congress Categories for RT, Fringie