Where the Kids Come to Mouth Off - Page 41

Mister_Ruysbroeck · 08-30-2004, 06:45 PM

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Originally posted by robustpuppy
You know what they say about great minds, MR.

What do they say? Don't keep me in suspense!

Anne Elk · 08-30-2004, 06:47 PM

Nike has come up with this

for Serena to wear at the US Open. Yes, those are sneakers made to look like boots. They are supposed to supply support to the calf muscles. Yeah. Right.

Fugee · 08-30-2004, 06:50 PM

Is there someone out there who could give me a primer on fair use for copyright?

A non-profit wants to use a New Yorker cartoon in a one-time advertisement for a free event in the community "shopper" newspaper (the kind that get delivered on doorsteps weekly w/o subscription). Do they need to get permission from the New Yorker or the cartoonist?

Edited to completely change the topic of the post because board ownership is boring.

ETA: The cartoon would be the basis for commentary on the subject of it -- kind of like "here's the answer to this problem" if that makes any difference.

Alex_de_Large · 08-30-2004, 07:02 PM

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Originally posted by Anne Elk
Nike has come up with this

for Serena to wear at the US Open. Yes, those are sneakers made to look like boots. They are supposed to supply support to the calf muscles. Yeah. Right.

At first glance, I thought that was Queen Latifah in her costume from her new dominatrix movie. Yikes!

eta: Nike has more about it here (click on "glam slam")

spree: like to nike.com

Mandy GA · 08-30-2004, 07:04 PM

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Originally posted by Mister_Ruysbroeck
Is anyone else out there horny right now? I am, and I have no idea why.

Yes. oh yes. I'm out of here in exactly 1 hour with thoughts of turning the a/c up, popping in a Femme Productions DVD, turning on the Rabbit and inserting the anal beads.

RP, you should take notes, the above is infinitely more enjoyable than Spinster Book Club.

Mandy

Gattigap · 08-30-2004, 07:06 PM

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Originally posted by Fugee
Is there someone out there who could give me a primer on fair use for copyright?

A non-profit wants to use a New Yorker cartoon in a one-time advertisement for a free event in the community "shopper" newspaper (the kind that get delivered on doorsteps weekly w/o subscription). Do they need to get permission from the New Yorker or the cartoonist?

Edited to completely change the topic of the post because board ownership is boring.

It depends on the arrangement between the publisher and the artist, but odds are that the New Yorker has the copyright.

You'll want to get a license from them. (Just because the entity is a non-profit does not automatically make the use a "fair use" under copyright). Many publications have re-use programs of some sort, so it may be doable to get such a license.

Shape Shifter · 08-30-2004, 07:11 PM

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Originally posted by Fugee
Is there someone out there who could give me a primer on fair use for copyright?

A non-profit wants to use a New Yorker cartoon in a one-time advertisement for a free event in the community "shopper" newspaper (the kind that get delivered on doorsteps weekly w/o subscription). Do they need to get permission from the New Yorker or the cartoonist?

Edited to completely change the topic of the post because board ownership is boring.

There's a rather lengthy discussion on copyright on politics. And hoo has and stuff.

Atticus Grinch · 08-30-2004, 07:20 PM

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Originally posted by Fugee
Is there someone out there who could give me a primer on fair use for copyright?

Surprisingly, one of the best compendiums (albeit directed to laypersons) of copyright resources on the web is Negativland, the NorCal performance art band that got into trouble making a recording of U2 and Casey Kasem going apeshit during a long distance dedication {.mp3} some years back. After the legal battle died down, they took it upon themselves to write manifestos about the role of copyright in derivative works in the digital age.

Again, the links from the Negativland site are designed to explain the inexplicable to the layperson, but are definitely more accessible for problem-solving than reaching for Nimmer.

Flinty_McFlint · 08-30-2004, 07:27 PM

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Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Again, the links from the Negativland site are designed to explain the inexplicable to the layperson, but are definitely more accessible for problem-solving than reaching for Nimmer.

Is that a euphemism or something?

Shape Shifter · 08-30-2004, 07:29 PM

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Originally posted by Flinty_McFlint
Is that a euphemism or something?

Ah, Flinty, you have much learning, and loving to do.

Flinty_McFlint · 08-30-2004, 07:34 PM

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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Ah, Flinty, you have much learning, and loving to do.

I'm reaching for Nimmer as we speak.

baltassoc · 08-30-2004, 07:34 PM

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Originally posted by Gattigap
It depends on the arrangement between the publisher and the artist, but odds are that the New Yorker has the copyright.

You'll want to get a license from them. (Just because the entity is a non-profit does not automatically make the use a "fair use" under copyright). Many publications have re-use programs of some sort, so it may be doable to get such a license.

[Channeling Not Me]

You are an idiot. Any competent patent attorney would know that the copyright belongs to whomever created the work, unless it's assigned to another, and here it is likely that the New Yorker has the copyright, or at least exclusive right to license it, because the New Yorker probably hires attorneys with bigger-but-not-so-you'd-notice breasts and not nincompoops like Gatti.

And don't listen to Gatti. You'll need to get a license, because the balance of the fair use factors does not favor the non-profit, even though it is a non-profit. The New Yorker is likely to get requests like this all the time and almost certainly has an efficient system set up to handle the requests - so Gatti is an idiot for failing to mention this.

[/Channeling Not Me]

What the hell happened? Why does my hoo ha itch?

Atticus Grinch · 08-30-2004, 07:42 PM

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Originally posted by Flinty_McFlint
Is that a euphemism or something?

Movie reference. Jeez, doesn't anyone watch The Godfather anymore?

Alex_de_Large · 08-30-2004, 07:48 PM

If your name was Adrian Annus, would you change it?

spree: even though he sounds like a gay pornstar, Adrian Annus is the Hungarian hammer thrower recently stripped of an Olympic medal for doping

Shape Shifter · 08-30-2004, 07:49 PM

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Originally posted by Alex_de_Large
If your name was Adrian Annus, would you change it?

spree: even though he sounds like a gay pornstar, Adrian Annus is the Hungarian hammer thrower recently stripped of an Olympic medal for doping

I've never liked Adrian for a guy.