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09-13-2004, 05:11 PM
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#1441
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Monday morning griping
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
After dinner parties, it is said Picasso would have Guernica wheeled out for his guests to enjoy. Some saw only a mishmash of shapes. Some simply saw the meanings they had read various critics had acsribed in the art press. Still others saw new meaning, deeper significance and multi layered relevance.
Of course all of this flowed from that which Picasso had put down on canvas.
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Paigow invented being a misunderstood genius.
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09-13-2004, 05:14 PM
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#1442
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Throwing a kettle over a pub
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Monday morning griping
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
After dinner parties, it is said Picasso would have Guernica wheeled out for his guests to enjoy. Some saw only a mishmash of shapes. Some simply saw the meanings they had read various critics had ascribed in the art press. Still others saw new meaning, deeper significance and multi layered relevance.
Of course all of this flowed from that which Picasso had put down on canvas. I guess you wouold say this was because he painted "poorly."
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Picasso also was once so impressed with the artistic talent of a chimpanzee named Congo in the 1950's that he bought one of his paintings.
Hank Chimpnaski?
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09-13-2004, 05:16 PM
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#1443
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World Ruler
Join Date: Apr 2003
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Monday morning griping
Quote:
Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
After dinner parties, it is said Picasso would have Guernica wheeled out for his guests to enjoy. Some saw only a mishmash of shapes. Some simply saw the meanings they had read various critics had ascribed in the art press. Still others saw new meaning, deeper significance and multi layered relevance.
Of course all of this flowed from that which Picasso had put down on canvas. I guess you wouold say this was because he painted "poorly."
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Pablo Picasso never got called an asshole.
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09-13-2004, 05:28 PM
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#1444
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Moderator
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Flower
Posts: 8,434
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Monday morning griping
Quote:
Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
After dinner parties, it is said Picasso would have Guernica wheeled out for his guests to enjoy. Some saw only a mishmash of shapes. Some simply saw the meanings they had read various critics had ascribed in the art press. Still others saw new meaning, deeper significance and multi layered relevance.
Of course all of this flowed from that which Picasso had put down on canvas. I guess you wouold say this was because he painted "poorly."
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It is said that a Nazi officer once came to Picasso's house with a postcard of the painting Guernica. The Nazi show the postcard to Picasso and asked "Did you do this?" Picasso replied, "No, you did."
Whether apocryphal or not, this story has been rather instructive to me. I see now that my fascistic adherence to order and structure and rules only serves to quash the creativity that sometimes exists, and can only exist, outside of these rules. Grammar can be an important and useful tool, but when it becomes a fetish, worshiped for its own sake, it undermines the very purpose of putting pen to paper (or typed word to cyberspace, or ink to cave wall) in the first place - the expression of ideas. They laughed at Ornette Coleman when he felt he could no longer be constrained by time signatures and chord structures. They said his music was no different from that which an untutored child could make. But few could disagree that the haunting beauty of his song Lonely Woman has withstood the test of time.
Hank, I may not understand many of your posts, and I may find the ambiguity caused by your grammatical and typographical lapses to be maddening at times. But I will keep reading, looking for the Lonely Woman I know you have inside you.
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09-13-2004, 05:34 PM
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#1445
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Apathy rocks!
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: under a rock
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Umm...
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Originally posted by bilmore
4. One protestor, Batman or not, is sort of a weak fart into a strong wind. Couldn't he have convinced Spiderman, Catwoman, Superman, or ANYBODY to come along and lend support?
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I thought I read somewhere that the Invisible Woman was there for moral support.
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09-13-2004, 05:40 PM
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#1446
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Apathy rocks!
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: under a rock
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Monday morning griping
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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Pablo Picasso never got called an asshole.
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Thanks Shifty. I've got various Modern Lovers tunes running through my head now. Which reminds me I need to get them on mp3.
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All our final decisions are made in a state of mind that not going to last. - Proust
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09-13-2004, 05:46 PM
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#1447
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2003
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Monday morning griping
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Originally posted by Pretty Little Flower
It is said that a Nazi officer once came to Picasso's house with a postcard of the painting Guernica. The Nazi show the postcard to Picasso and asked "Did you do this?" Picasso replied, "No, you did."
Whether apocryphal or not, this story has been rather instructive to me. I see now that my fascistic adherence to order and structure and rules only serves to quash the creativity that sometimes exists, and can only exist, outside of these rules. Grammar can be an important and useful tool, but when it becomes a fetish, worshiped for its own sake, it undermines the very purpose of putting pen to paper (or typed word to cyberspace, or ink to cave wall) in the first place - the expression of ideas.
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But also remember that Rembrandt, Caravaggio and Peter Paul Reubens paid abundant attention to detail. So, if it ain't Baroque, don't fix it.
BOTD!
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No no no, that's not gonna help. That's not gonna help and I'll tell you why: It doesn't unbang your Mom.
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09-13-2004, 05:48 PM
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#1448
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Proud Holder-Post 200,000
Join Date: Sep 2003
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Monday morning griping
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Originally posted by Pretty Little Flower
I see now that my fascistic adherence to order and structure and rules only serves to quash the creativity that sometimes exists, and can only exist, outside of these rules.
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Like some after school special where 2 kids learn all there differences aren't, or like the Gift of the Magi, only inside out, I too learned some of my preset notions only limit me!
this weekend, I hurt my leg and couldn't run, so I went to my local health club for an intense "deep burn" spin class. I felt funny because of all the ignorant things I had said about spinning, but no one there knew, right? We started up, and got going, and when we hit the first hill, the instructress' tape merges into Spandau's Chant No. 1 the extended version.
"Hill sprint people!"
I thought of how I had said horns were awful in music as the sax drove us all up the hill- "faster now- more tension!" buttocks all around me undulating under spandex as spandau drives us on.
I feel the graze against my skin
I feel the graze against my skin
I know this feeling is a lie
I know this feeling is a lie
There's a guilt within my mind
There's a guilt within my mind
There was indeed a guilt within my mind! there was nothing wrong with horns and nothing wrong with spinning! yet I had posted there were problems with both......to the extent I influence, perhaps I have limited the lives of another with my prejudices.
"Increase tension! HARDER NOW! FASTER! MORE TENSION!"
I know this feeling is a lie
There's a guilt within my mind
Driving us up towards the crest- the horns motivating- a lesson the Chinese army knew long ago and Hank just learns!
"C'mon almost there- faster even faster- 10-9- almost there--5 -4-3-2-1 Done!"
Later, sitting with the guys in the sauna with a marjoram aroma-therapy underway, I was the one who suggested we ask her to play Saturday in the Park as a cool down next time.
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09-13-2004, 06:08 PM
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#1449
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Moderator
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: State of Chaos
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Monday morning griping
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
[another unreadable post]
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Sorry, Hank, I know you've been trying hard, but since I don't believe in all of that touch-feely self-esteem-building bullshit, it doesn't matter. The best you are ever going to get is misunderstood. Genius just ain't gonna happen.
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09-13-2004, 06:12 PM
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#1450
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Throwing a kettle over a pub
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Monday morning griping
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Originally posted by robustpuppy
Sorry, Hank, I know you've been trying hard, but since I don't believe in all of that touch-feely self-esteem-building bullshit, it doesn't matter. The best you are ever going to get is misunderstood. Genius just ain't gonna happen.
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Like many artists, he won't be understood until after he's dead.
So let's kill him now. For his sake.
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No no no, that's not gonna help. That's not gonna help and I'll tell you why: It doesn't unbang your Mom.
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09-13-2004, 06:16 PM
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#1451
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Government Yard in Trenchtown
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Question for people who have been pregnant or intimate with same
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Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
Baby is due in about a month. Would a pre-delivery massage be a good baby shower gift? Would you have gone to any ole masseuse or are there specialists who work on pregnant women?
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For the ultimate gift (albeit one requiring pre-giving consultation with the recipient), find a nurse-midwife who knows massage (you will discover most do - those quasi-alternative medicine types tend to hang together) and get her a massage DURING delivery. I have been told that this is better than drugs, by one who has had both.
Edited to add: if you want to find a specialist in prego-massage, check with the nearest nurse-midwife for a reference. There's a good mid-wife program at UTEP.
Last edited by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy; 09-13-2004 at 06:26 PM..
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09-13-2004, 06:28 PM
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#1452
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Moderasaurus Rex
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 33,053
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Monday morning griping
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Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
Is ok an abbreviation? for what? I always thought it was "ok", no periods. Or full stops, if you will.
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At the risk of failing to stp, one explanation of this is as follows: Martin van Buren was known by the nickname "Old Kinderhook," Kinderhook being a small town south of Albany from whence he hailed,* and would sign White House papers "O.K."
Sadly, I've also seen this explanation debunked.
* Some think the industrial revolution was made possible by the development of hipper nicknames like "Speedy" and "Junior", which in turn begat even hipper nicknames like "J-Lo".
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09-13-2004, 06:29 PM
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#1453
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Flaired.
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Out with Lumbergh.
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Question for people who have been pregnant or intimate with same
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Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
For the ultimate gift (albeit one requiring pre-giving consultation with the recipient), find a nurse-midwife who knows massage (you will discover most do - those quasi-alternative medicine types tend to hang together) and get her a massage DURING delivery. I have been told that this is better than drugs, by one who has had both.
Edited to add: if you want to find a specialist in prego-massage, check with the nearest nurse-midwife for a reference. There's a good mid-wife program at UTEP.
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I'm assuming that you aren't suggesting that El Paso is anywhere near Houston. You're lucky that I give you the benefit of the doubt here, G3. Hank wouldn't be treated quite so well.
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09-13-2004, 06:34 PM
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#1454
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Government Yard in Trenchtown
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Question for people who have been pregnant or intimate with same
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Originally posted by notcasesensitive
I'm assuming that you aren't suggesting that El Paso is anywhere near Houston. You're lucky that I give you the benefit of the doubt here, G3. Hank wouldn't be treated quite so well.
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Yeh, a few hundred miles and about a century apart, I believe. I wasn't sure where in Texas RT is, somehow I'd thought San Antonio, but I thought the medical folks in El Paso might have statewide contacts / reference lists.
I can say this: El Paso is closer to Houston than the other places I know that have good midwifery programs (Oregon and Massachusetts).
And, I thank you for the benefit of the doubt. It's good not to be Hank.
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09-13-2004, 06:56 PM
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#1455
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Livin' a Lie!
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 2,097
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General gym pet peeve
Look, if you are mortified of walking around the gym locker room naked, don't take a shower at the gym.
Taking a shower in your gym clothes or in your underwear is fucking wacky.
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