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Old 10-20-2004, 12:04 PM   #4216
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Yes, A-rods the pussy.

MLB told the umps they wanted a game 7. Total fucking bullshit.
Except for Arod being a pussy, the views of slavenomore do not necessarily reflect the views of all Yankee fans.

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Old 10-20-2004, 12:05 PM   #4217
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Schilling? Wow, what guts.
A-Rod? Wow, what a bastard.
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I guess you can maybe forgive what he did; maybe he gets away with it and it's the reason the Yanks win the pennant. With the result, he was no better off.

BUT, he was stupid to argue the call with the umps and do the fake running motion and try to claim that he was just running. The crew will watch that all on Sportscenter tonight, and those guys remember stuff like that. Moises Alou can't get a call because he's got a reputation as an asshole and a crybaby. A-Rod is just hurting himself by lying about that kind of behaviour...
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Old 10-20-2004, 12:08 PM   #4218
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Oh, stop it. He couldn't locate his pitches or hit 90 with any regularity in Game 1. He beat us last night. He pitched well.

Now, don't get me wrong. I think he played his injury up for all it was worth last night, limping around like a gimp (Give me a break -- you're throwing 94 mph. You can walk). But now, no one in Boston will talk about his decision to pitch in Game 1. They'll be too busy holding him above their shoulders for pulling a Willis Reed in Game 6.

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I thought the rule on interference was that the batter and the interfering running (in this case one and the same) are out and no player can advance on the play. So I was wondering why the opposite: why did the run score?

In the absence of a rule like that, there's an incentive to try to interfere when you're going to be out otherwise. It could happen all the time, and baseball could end up like hockey.
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Old 10-20-2004, 12:12 PM   #4219
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The Sox have played their hearts out. The Yankees have looked arrogant and overconfident -- like we should just be handed the pennant. If Boston wins, they deserve it. Without a real showing of some actual fight tonight, if the Yankees lose, they deserve it too.

I miss YanksIn9. {sniff}

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Old 10-20-2004, 12:13 PM   #4220
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I guess you can maybe forgive what he did; maybe he gets away with it and it's the reason the Yanks win the pennant. With the result, he was no better off.

BUT, he was stupid to argue the call with the umps and do the fake running motion and try to claim that he was just running. The crew will watch that all on Sportscenter tonight, and those guys remember stuff like that. Moises Alou can't get a call because he's got a reputation as an asshole and a crybaby. A-Rod is just hurting himself by lying about that kind of behaviour...
I agree. You can't blame the guy for trying. It's his job to make the play, it's the umps' job to make the call. He shouldn't argue it, though. It's pretty obvious from the replay that he slapped the glove. Is he still maintaining that it was the wrong call?
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Old 10-20-2004, 12:14 PM   #4221
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What a game! After consultation the Umps got both controversial calls correct. As for balls and strikes we can argue those until the cows come home. Those calls have been relatively consistent. On both sides, some for, some against.
I agree with you. I originally thought some of our guys were getting squeezed by the umps, but I'm sure they felt the same in Boston.

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What I want to know is when did Tim McCarver start collecting checks from George Steinbrenner?
I have to disagree with you there. The guy is just a fucking moron. He is as bad when talking about the Sox. I thought he was outright rooting for them a few times. But I think he's just stupid and has nothing to add. Another sportscaster who thinks people tune in to hear him talk.

"After the wild pitch, the runner moves from second to third. One more wild pitch and he'll score." Thanks, Madden.

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Thurgreed- Enjoy the game tomorrow night, may the best team win.
Yep. Thanks. I can't begin to tell you how disgusted I am with my team right now, but it will all melt away once I hit 161st street.

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ETA: After seeing the "slap", I am sooo glad we didn't get A-Rod.
Really? I was glad to see that he actually fucking cared and was trying to make something happen. It was no worse than Cabrera's slide the other night when, after Cairo had released the ball and was just standing there, Cabrera slid, rolled and popped up in such a way that his body rammed into Cairo's chest, knocking him over. Since he had no shot at breaking up the double play, it was unnecessary and dirty.

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Old 10-20-2004, 12:16 PM   #4222
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I agree. You can't blame the guy for trying. It's his job to make the play, it's the umps' job to make the call. He shouldn't argue it, though. It's pretty obvious from the replay that he slapped the glove. Is he still maintaining that it was the wrong call?
Slapping the glove made him look like the kid everybody hated in little league. Arguing the call made him look like the kid everybody hated in little league who grew up and went to law school.
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Old 10-20-2004, 12:20 PM   #4223
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Agreed. Carbs are excellent. Protein and fat? Also excellent. A meal that contains all three? Now you're talking.
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Old 10-20-2004, 12:22 PM   #4224
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Slapping the glove made him look like the kid everybody hated in little league. Arguing the call made him look like the kid everybody hated in little league who grew up and went to law school.
This is an alleged quote by A-Rod:

"I know that line belongs to me and he was coming at me," Rodriguez said. "Once I reached out and tried to knock the ball, the call went against me. I should have just run over him."

I have to admit, I went to bed before this happened because as exciting as this series is, baseball is not my bag, baby, but it seems to me that he just admitted trying to knock the ball out of the pitcher's hand. So why was he arguing the call? Or did he just later give up the argument?

this is the link with the quote
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...dsox.yanks.ap/
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Old 10-20-2004, 12:23 PM   #4225
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A-Rod should be embarassed. You don't see that shit in Little League games.
Don't be ridiculous. That kind of stuff happens all the time. Kent Hrbeck pulled an Atlanta runner's leg off the bag in the World Series on a pickoff in a tight game and that stood. Last year, a catcher purposefully smashed into Jeter while sliding into third after his hand was already on the bag, knocked him off, dislocating his shoulder and the ump called him out. So, don't make this more than it is, especially when you got the call.

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The 1st base umpire should be embarassed too. How can you call a runner safe BEFORE he touches the bag?
He shouldn't have said he was safe, but it was clear that he was trying to indicate that the runner was not out since the ball popped out. How would it have made a difference anyway?

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(In addition to the interference, he was also out of the base path.)
Wrong. Guys can go like 5 feet on the foul side of the baseline running to first. I saw Torii Hunter do just that against us earlier this season. They can't run in fair territory when they would interfere with a throw to first. Besides, even if the rule said you couldn't run outside the baseline on your way to first, he was clearly within the normal parameters and you're smokin' some shit if you think he wasn't.

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Old 10-20-2004, 12:27 PM   #4226
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This is an alleged quote by A-Rod:

"I know that line belongs to me and he was coming at me," Rodriguez said. "Once I reached out and tried to knock the ball, the call went against me. I should have just run over him."

I have to admit, I went to bed before this happened because as exciting as this series is, baseball is not my bag, baby, but it seems to me that he just admitted trying to knock the ball out of the pitcher's hand. So why was he arguing the call? Or did he just later give up the argument?

this is the link with the quote
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...dsox.yanks.ap/
Does anybody else feel oogy at the thought of sutures holding Schilling's ankle tendon in place?

Suffice it to say I don't have "bravado etched on my face" right now, although I did manage to "play throught the pain" the other day when a shaving nick caused a drop of blood to seep through my hose.


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Old 10-20-2004, 12:35 PM   #4227
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I thought the rule on interference was that the batter and the interfering running (in this case one and the same) are out and no player can advance on the play. So I was wondering why the opposite: why did the run score?
What are you talking about? The run didn't score. Jeter was sent back to first. He initially made it all the way home, but after the interference call, he was back at first.

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In the absence of a rule like that, there's an incentive to try to interfere when you're going to be out otherwise. It could happen all the time, and baseball could end up like hockey.
If that's the rule, I think it's stupid. Arod interfered, but they had absolutely no shot at throwing Jeter out at second. Arod is out and Jeter should be where he would have been if Arod had not interfered. It makes no sense to argue that runners would try to interfere every single time if the other baserunners weren't punished. Under that line of reasoning, every runner would try to interfere on every play he knew he would be called out on when bases were empty. But you never see that, do you? Maybe Sheffield should start with a strike if Jeter hadn't been on base and Arod pulled the same thing?

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Old 10-20-2004, 12:36 PM   #4228
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And while I'm on the subject, why was Jeter sent back to first? The play was a fielder's choice and ARod was rightly called out for interference. Jeter should have been sent to second. Is there some rule that says when there is interference, all runners must be sent back to where they were before the play started?
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This is from the official rules of MLB:

7.09

. . . It is interference by a batter or a runner when: (g) If, in the judgment of the umpire, a base runner willfully and deliberately interferes with a batted ball or a fielder in the act of fielding a batted ball with the obvious intent to break up a double play, the ball is dead. The umpire shall call the runner out for interference and also call out the batter runner because of the action of his teammate. In no event may bases be run or runs scored because of such action by a runner.

http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/of...s/runner_7.jsp

I assume thats why Jeter was sent back to first.

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Old 10-20-2004, 12:36 PM   #4229
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Don't be ridiculous. That kind of stuff happens all the time.
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Old 10-20-2004, 12:40 PM   #4230
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In all sports. See:

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Ha. I had a soccer game on Sunday where one of the refs (mistakenly) thought one of our players had an intentional hand ball in the box. The ref gave him a yellow card and when the player complained, the ref kept calling him Maradona throughout the rest of the game.
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