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[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
you picked LAkers in 4, right?

I didn't pick anyone. Didn't care. Until I realized that the Lakers could lose. Now I care. I want the Lakers to reap what they have sowed.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
I didn't pick anyone. Didn't care. Until I realized that the Lakers could lose. Now I care. I want the Lakers to reap what they have sowed.

What does that have to do with the finals?

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

So, how much of a hit did Ullrich's chances take now that Vinakourov is out of the Tour?

And what's with the new book alleging Lance was on the Program in the late 90s?

ETA: oops, forgot the most important part of a cycling post, podium girl pics:

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
So, how much of a hit did Ullrich's chances take now that Vinakourov is out of the Tour?

And what's with the new book alleging Lance was on the Program in the late 90s?

Apropos of Lance, I was listening to ESPN radio and a cycling commentator said that Lance isn't even close to being the best cyclist ever b/c he specializes in the Tour de France and doesn't seriously compete in any other major races. He compared it to Tiger preparing all year for the Masters and using other majors as training.

He also said that his team has the Tour down to such a science that Lance really only races in the time trials.

Discuss.

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
What does that have to do with the finals?

Your questions always confuse me. I'm only interested in the finals if the Lakers lose? I think my sentiment is felt by many others? Is that good enough?

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
Apropos of Lance, I was listening to ESPN radio and a cycling commentator said that Lance isn't even close to being the best cyclist ever b/c he specializes in the Tour de France and doesn't seriously compete in any other major races. He compared it to Tiger preparing all year for the Masters and using other majors as training.

He also said that his team has the Tour down to such a science that Lance really only races in the time trials.

Discuss.

If it's that easy, why aren't others doing it and beating Lance?*

*not intended to confuse

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
If it's that easy, why aren't others doing it and beating Lance?*

*not intended to confuse

I don't know. Do other cyclists take the other major events seriously or not? Or do most train ONLY for the TDF?

The real question is, does this picture change anyone's mind about the Lohan/Duff poll?

[NotFromHere]

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
I don't know. Do other cyclists take the other major events seriously or not? Or do most train ONLY for the TDF?

The real question is, does this picture change anyone's mind about the Lohan/Duff poll?

Yes. She needs to use a clear deodorant.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
If it's that easy, why aren't others doing it and beating Lance?*

*not intended to confuse

Money. Lance can afford to do it because of sponsorships. Most riders have to ride a lot of races to make money to help the team survive, and to ensure continued sponsorship.

The guy has a point. Depends on how you define "best" of course. He's won the world's most difficult bicycling race 5 times in a row, which has been done only once before. That has to count for something. If Tiger played in only the Masters (or U.S. Open) and won five straight years, I doubt people would be saying he's "not the best golfer." But the analogy isn't a particularly good one anyway, because golf is structured with a lot of similar-calibre tournaments with some considered more prestigious (but not necessarily harder) than others. Cycling has three majors, with one the biggest of them all, and then a huge bunch of other races that are shorter and less grueling. If the PGA had only the four majors, and then everything else was like the Nike tour, with multiple tourneys each weekend, and Tiger played only the majors, and kept winning them, you'd have a pretty good analogy.

As for time trials vs. the rest of the race, he's wrong on the facts. First, in any long tour the goal isn't to win each stage (well, for the sprinters it is, and the ones who have no chance of winning the overall race), it's to have the lowest total time. So he has to pick his spots. And it's not like he hasn't won both time trial and mountain stages. He's blown away nearly the entire field in at least 1 or 2 mountain stages each of the last few years. No one else has sustained that kind of record recently.

But, if you compare him to Eddie Merckx, who won multiple races each year, Lance comes up way short.

(edited to correct embarrasing misspelling of cycling legend's name

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?


The real question is, does this picture change anyone's mind about the Lohan/Duff poll?

Well, Hillary's now in the same category of not getting by the tits. But should I happen to do so, I'd still rather be looking at Lohan's face.

[robustpuppy]

Originally posted by NotFromHere
Yes. She needs to use a clear deodorant.

Or lift her arms just like that next time she goes to the beach or tanning salon.

[sunnybunny]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Money. Lance can afford to do it because of sponsorships. Most riders have to ride a lot of races to make money to help the team survive, and to ensure continued sponsorship.

The guy has a point. Depends on how you define "best" of course. He's won the world's most difficult bicycling race 5 times in a row, which has been done only once before. That has to count for something. If Tiger played in only the Masters (or U.S. Open) and won five straight years, I doubt people would be saying he's "not the best golfer." But the analogy isn't a particularly good one anyway, because golf is structured with a lot of similar-calibre tournaments with some considered more prestigious (but not necessarily harder) than others. Cycling has three majors, with one the biggest of them all, and then a huge bunch of other races that are shorter and less grueling. If the PGA had only the four majors, and then everything else was like the Nike tour, with multiple tourneys each weekend, and Tiger played only the majors, and kept winning them, you'd have a pretty good analogy.

As for time trials vs. the rest of the race, he's wrong on the facts. First, in any long tour the goal isn't to win each stage (well, for the sprinters it is, and the ones who have no chance of winning the overall race), it's to have the lowest total time. So he has to pick his spots. And it's not like he hasn't won both time trial and mountain stages. He's blown away nearly the entire field in at least 1 or 2 mountain stages each of the last few years. No one else has sustained that kind of record recently.

But, if you compare him to Freddie Merckx, who won multiple races each year, Lance comes up way short.

I"m never going to have a kid, but if I do, his or her middle name is going to be Merckx (and it's Eddie, not Freddie) in honor of the Cannibal.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by sunnybunny
(and it's Eddie, not Freddie)

True. I was listing to some Queen this morning, with their frontman Eddie Mercury.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
I don't think Anthony would have helped the Pistons much anyway.

You're nuts. Dumars would work with him himself if he was there. He's got an excellent jump shot for such an athletic player. He would fit in very well in your scheme.

I don't get the Darko thing, but then again, I haven't seen him play enough to see what kind of potential he has.

TM

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
True. I was listing to some Queen this morning, with their frontman Eddie Mercury.

Speaking of quicksilver, I finished it last night but I think I'm going to have to go back and read the beginning again to figure out what the stuff at the end meant. I started it kind of a long time ago (around when it came out) and then stopped reading just barely into Book II for a few months.

RT, I liked Cryptonomicon but a few people on here (or, there) were surprised that I liked it, seeing as how I'm ostensibly female.