New Fashion Board 10-3-2003 - 11-7-2003

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by purse junkie
Mommy, he mocked me! He waved a Red Sox towel! He started it! Why am I the only one getting in trouble? I had to hit him til my hand split and stomp my cleats into his chest!

What the fuck is this, a second-grade playground? Any overpaid Peter Pan asshole who can't hold it together in the face of routine fan taunting should be stripped of his goddamned contract and forced to actually work for a living.

P(and I hold my own team's crying toddlers to the same standard)J

bullpens are dangerous because they're in places having pretty good access from the stands. the guys in them catch shit all the time from fans. now for a guy to go in there and start taunting is really crossing a line, isn't it? plus, relief pitchers are probably the most on edge of all baseball players. they have to be ready to start already fired up. going into a bullpen and starting shit really isn't smart.
the entire fight is pathetic, but the groundskeeper, or whoever he is, is as guilty. The fact he lost the fight doesn't change that.
of course, he can bring suit....in a Mass. Court, so don't feel too sorry for him.

[purse junkie]

Originally posted by barely_legal
I just found out that a guy I've started dating refuses to go see movies in movie theaters. If I was head over heels in lust with him, maybe I could overlook this, but wtf? I love going to see movies and I can't imagine not being able to go see new releases with the person I'm dating.

You're not head over heels in lust with the guy, and he's already made it clear he has no desire to ever do something you like to do with the guys you date.

If you can't be happy going to the movies with your friends the rest of your life instead, and unless you are really attached to this guy already, why not cut your losses and bail?

[Bad_Rich_Chic]

Originally posted by evenodds
I rarely see anything in the theater because I cannot stand having people talk during a movie....

We attend the theater in our neighborhood because it has the most generous stadium seating (true aisles, great legroom, no kids kicking the back of your seat). If it's not playing there, I have to really really really want to see it.

We have 3 nearby theaters. Two are little independent, sort of arthouse theaters (one of which stays afloat by showing every kid movie that comes out to which every middle-class parent is apparently obligated by law to drag their offspring 3 times), one is the big megaplex, which gets a much more mixed audience (downtown brooklynites of color rather than the white Yuppies inhabiting the other two). One theater is more, um, participatory than the others. It also has much nicer seating, and is much less run down.

We usually end up going to the megaplex, though I try to see things in the nearer of the indy theaters if we can (just 'cause I like supporting local businesses, really). For most of the stuff we see a loud "interactive" crowd is just fine, sometimes even more entertaining than the movie - most mainstream horror, action and comedy falls into this category. Someone talking during 28 days later would have bugged the fuck out of me, though. (Actually, it was the people who brought their little kids, who squirmed and cried, that bugged me in that one.) Unfortunately, it wasn't showing at one of the little theaters.

I guess what I'm saying is - we know the crowds at our various theaters, and pick where we'll see a given movie accordingly. Should it not be so? On the one hand, yes, one should be able to expect quiet in theaters everywhere on the general public behavior theory that those with non-intrusive preferences prevail over those with intrusive preferences. On the other hand, different communities have different public behavior standards, and when in Rome...

[Anttwat]

Originally posted by purse junkie
Mommy, he mocked me! He waved a Red Sox towel! He started it! Why am I the only one getting in trouble? I had to hit him til my hand split and stomp my cleats into his chest!

What the fuck is this, a second-grade playground? Any overpaid Peter Pan asshole who can't hold it together in the face of routine fan taunting should be stripped of his goddamned contract and forced to actually work for a living.

P(and I hold my own team's crying toddlers to the same standard)J

It's because of this...Jeff Nelson has a big mouth and a bad temper. New York is the only place he actually fits in and if he weren't a Yankee, he'd be a Yankee fan (read loud and obnoxious). I wouldn't be surprised at all if I found out that he started the whole thing in the bull-pen. Cleating a guy while he's on the ground is his specialty.

[Not Bob]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Very entertaining to threaten to bash in the skulls of members of the other team with a 96 mph fastball. Back in law school, we called this assault.

Interesting. What did you call it when pitchers threw bats at players running to first base?

Apropos of nothing, Saturday's events demonstrate one of the many reasons why the designated hitter rule should be eliminated. Make Pedro or Roger* or [insert name of American League pitcher here] stand in the batter's box, and much of this nonsense will go away.

*I note that Roger's pitch to Manny was barely off the plate, and that Manny was reacting to what he was expecting from Roger, not what Roger did. Nonetheless, Roger does throw at heads every so often.

[The Daintiest Petunia]

Originally posted by spookyfish
Welcome to the board, newber. We're glad to have you! Don't be afraid to jump into the fray with the rest of us, very few people here bite. I have a suggestion, though. Since you are new, you probably do not know a lot of the ins and outs of the board yet. A little tradition we have here, is to sprinkle most of our posts with a shout-out to one of our board friends. Usually, we try to sprinkle this into the middle of the text, like this (Hi, Thurgreed!). It's just a friendly way of saying heidy-ho to your new chums on the board. If you have any questions, PM me, and I'll be glad to give you a list of our friendlier posters. Again, welcome aboard, new neighbor, and have fun. I'm sure you'll learn soon enough that we're a swell bunch of folks.

Your new pal,
spookyfish

Thanks Mr. (or Ms.!) Spookyfish! I actually have learned quite a bit from lurking. I was actually working on a song parody as my debut post, but then the whole contest came along and that was the end of that little scheme! Although I am not sure that all of your comments are uttered with complete sincerity, no worries here! I just appreciate the response. Now that you mention it, though, I never did understand that "shout out" thing. I always thought it referred to some private joke between a couple of Greedy Associates. But maybe that can be our little joke (Hi Spookyfish!). LOL!!! Anyway, I have to get some work done and stop reading the internet before big boss man catches me! See ya on the boards!

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[NotFromHere]

Originally posted by Not Bob
Interesting. What did you call it when pitchers threw bats at players running to first base?

Apropos of nothing, Saturday's events demonstrate one of the many reasons why the designated hitter rule should be eliminated. Make Pedro or Roger* or [insert name of American League pitcher here] stand in the batter's box, and much of this nonsense will go away.

*I note that Roger's pitch to Manny was barely off the plate, and that Manny was reacting to what he was expecting from Roger, not what Roger did. Nonetheless, Roger does throw at heads every so often.

I've heard this. Do you really believe that Roger stops pitching the chin music if he has to go up to bat? Or do you think that more pitchers get hit? Or do you think he just saves it for the 6th or 7th inning?

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally posted by dtb
You're kidding, right? No one really believes this, do they? What, exactly, would he have converted to? There was no such thing as "Christianity" until centuries after his death.

The essential validity of that point is drowned in the hyperbole in which it is stated. There was no seperate thing called "Christianity" for probably 150 years or so after the death (or not-death, natch) of the man who came to be called Jesus.

However, the Jesus-cult was probably coequal with the other Jewish political parties of first century Judea by about 135 C.E. --- so you would talk about the Essenes, the Sadducees, the Pharisees, and the Jesus Party (using whatever term was then used) as being movements within Judaism. The destruction of the temple in 70 C.E. pretty much ended the Sadducees, who had been dominant to that point, and the defeat of the Bar-Kokhba Revolt in 135 probably catapulted the Jesus Party to a position of equality in the now-underground Jewish religion.

The fact that the Council of Jerusalem allowed the Jesus Party to recruit members without requiring adherence to dietary laws or circumcision (which was a taboo form of human mutilation among the Hellenistic residents of the Mediterranean region) gave the Jesus Movement a recruiting edge over other sects within Judaism. The foremost surviving competitor, Pharisaic/Rabbinic Judaism, was thus the target of the Jesus Movement's ire, and explains the latent or patent anti-Semitism of the early Christian church, where "Pharisee" is a synonym for "any non-Christian Jew." Combine this with the Jesus Movement's whacked-out millenial worldview saying that holy justice was imminent, and you have a recipe for success for the chaotic times to come within the Roman Empire. Around the same time, Pharisaic/Rabbinic Judaism made the choice to go toward a matrilineal ethnic identity, and away from any kind of proselytization, which made recruiting difficult.

There was a thing called Christianity then, but it looked too much like any other form of then-existing Judaism to consider it a Church.

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[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
For most of the stuff we see a loud "interactive" crowd is just fine, sometimes even more entertaining than the movie - most mainstream horror, action and comedy falls into this category.

I saw The Crying Game at a $1 theatre, where the audience members presumably did not expend much effort researching which films to see. The interactive crowd made the moment of revelation all the more memorable.

[The Daintiest Petunia]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
The essential validity of that point is drowned in the hyperbole in which it is stated. There was no seperate thing called "Christianity" for probably 150 years or so after the death (or not-death, natch) of the man who came to be called Jesus.

However, the Jesus-cult was probably coequal with the other Jewish political parties of first century Judea by about 135 C.E. --- so you would talk about the Essenes, the Sadducees, the Pharisees, and the Jesus Party (using whatever term was then used) as being movements within Judaism. The destruction of the temple in 70 C.E. pretty much ended the Sadducees, who had been dominant to that point, and the defeat of the Bar-Kokhba Revolt in 135 probably catapulted the Jesus Party to a position of equality in the now-underground Jewish religion.

The fact that the Council of Jerusalem allowed the Jesus Party to recruit members without requiring adherence to dietary laws or circumcision (which was a taboo form of human mutilation among the Hellenistic residents of the Mediterranean region) gave the Jesus Movement a recruiting edge over other sects within Judaism. The foremost surviving competitor, Pharisaic/Rabbinic Judaism, was thus the target of the Jesus Movement's ire, and explains the latent or patent anti-Semitism of the early Christian church, where "Pharisee" is a synonym for "any non-Christian Jew." Combine this with the Jesus Movement's whacked-out millenial worldview saying that holy justice was imminent, and you have a recipe for success for the chaotic times to come within the Roman Empire. Around the same time, Pharisaic/Rabbinic Judaism made the choice to go toward a matrilineal ethnic identity, and away from any kind of proselytization, which made recruiting difficult.

There was a thing called Christianity then, but it looked too much like any other form of then-existing Judaism to consider it a Church.

Wow!!! Sometimes I read posts by Atticus and just think, "Wow!!!" I wouldn't even know where to begin to respond!! It is nice to see a littel eruditity here. Is that even a word? I bet Atticus can tell me!!! LOL!! (I know this is a big bad "no no" for some of the posters here, but it is just part of my personality - if there is one thing I have learned from lurking is that you just cannot try too hard to be "FB Cool." It never works. Just be yourself. That's what I always say. Maybe I should write some sort of manual for newbers based on my experiences, which I have to say, have been great so far, even if Mr. Spookyfish was maybe poking a little fun at me! (Hi Spookyfish!) Poke away, SF, I can take it!)

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[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
Actually, attendance should probably be measured by % of capacity of stadium filled since most older stadiums are much smaller, e.g., Wrigley and Fenway. Yankee Stadium is quite large for an older stadium.

If we go by overall attendance %, i.e., % of capacity filled at home and on the road, the Cubs are #1, with San Fran #2 and Boston #3. Yankees are 4th.

That makes sense. So, under your theory, the Wolverines (UofM Stadium seating capacity: 107,501) have poor attendance when compared to Wrigley (39,000) if they fill 95% of their stadium and Wrigley sells out?

TM

[Bad_Rich_Chic]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
I saw The Crying Game at a $1 theatre, where the audience members presumably did not expend much effort researching which films to see. The interactive crowd made the moment of revelation all the more memorable.

Heh. When I saw LOTR: Fellowship, some group in the back didn't, apparently, realize it was first in a series. So when it ended, this cry of "WTF? No way!" went up from the back of the theater. Which was pretty amusing.

[SlaveNoMore]

purse junkie
Mommy, he mocked me! He waved a Red Sox towel! He started it! Why am I the only one getting in trouble? I had to hit him til my hand split and stomp my cleats into his chest!

What the fuck is this, a second-grade playground? Any overpaid Peter Pan asshole who can't hold it together in the face of routine fan taunting should be stripped of his goddamned contract and forced to actually work for a living.

P(and I hold my own team's crying toddlers to the same standard)J

He wasn't a fan. He was an employee paid to keep his fucking mouth shut and do his job shoveling dirt. Not get involved in the psyche of the game by having access to the opposing team [that no "fan" has].

I cannot believe some of you people.

[SlaveNoMore]

Anttwat
It's because of this...Jeff Nelson has a big mouth and a bad temper. New York is the only place he actually fits in and if he weren't a Yankee, he'd be a Yankee fan (read loud and obnoxious). I wouldn't be surprised at all if I found out that he started the whole thing in the bull-pen. Cleating a guy while he's on the ground is his specialty.

You ran Randy, Junior and ARod out of town. Edgar is retiring. And now you badmouth Nelson. No wonder Seattle is a suck baseball town.