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Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) · 10-13-2003, 11:46 AM

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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
. I want a do over so I can get my freak on in the age of easy sex, afros, Frampton, etc...

Dude, Frampton?!? One song. Admittedly, a long one, but still, one song. How many times can you fuck with that voice box going in the background.

Of course, throw Iron butterfly into the mix, and then you're set.

Replaced_Texan · 10-13-2003, 11:52 AM

1.) The Nielson people called me on Saturday morning, waking me up. They asked me to be a Nielson family for the upcoming November sweeps. This is probably the only type of call on a Saturday morning that wouldn't piss me off.

2.) I saw Kill Bill. I'm sort of reserving judgment until the second one comes out, but so far I'm liking it. Definitely violent and bloody. It felt much less video game like than other movies with similar scenes that have come out this year. I especially liked the anime sequences, and I'll certainly go back for the second one.

3.) The puppy avatar is staying up for a day or so, because I'm too lazy to change things.

ltl/fb · 10-13-2003, 11:55 AM

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Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
3.) The puppy avatar is staying up for a day or so, because I'm too lazy to change things.

That puppy is just adorable. It looks like a stuffed animal (in a good way). So cute.

That is all.

ThurgreedMarshall · 10-13-2003, 11:55 AM

1. Last week I saw Eddie Izzard's standup, Sexie. It was pretty good. Not as good as his act where he goes into the history of the naming of Englebert Humperdink (or however it's spelled). Enjoyed it.

2. Does anyone know anything about hypnotism? Is it all a crock of shit or what? I have a very close friend who survived something horrible and doesn't want to go to another psychiatrist. I was wondering if a hypnotist can help this person get to a point where they can actually sleep more than the 2-3 hours (never in a row) a night they get now. Any help would be appreciated.

TM

sebastian_dangerfield · 10-13-2003, 12:04 PM

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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Dude, Frampton?!? One song. Admittedly, a long one, but still, one song. How many times can you fuck with that voice box going in the background.

Of course, throw Iron butterfly into the mix, and then you're set.

Dude, Iron Butterfly is considered lates 60s psychedelia, even if it was released in the early 70s (1967-1972 count as the 60s).

"Do....... You.... You.... Feeeeeel.... Like I Do..." Brilliance. Next to the heart-wrenching "Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald" and the biting social commentary of "Car Wash", it may have been the decade's most defining musical moment.

Yes, I recognize this walks the line of plagiarizing I Love the 70s...

Hank Chinaski · 10-13-2003, 12:06 PM

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Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
2. Does anyone know anything about hypnotism? Is it all a crock of shit or what? TM

don't know about the "you will believe you are a duck" branch of hypnotism, but a little about the behavior mod. type. My wife went to a "hypnotism to quit smoking class" about 10 years ago, and quit. She still hasn't started back smoking. The guy put negative associations (when you think of a smoke think of a nasty tar filled ashtray, etc..) in her mind that helped her through quitting.
She felt that it was important she believed it could work, and that she really wanted to quit. A more skeptical friend who went with her to the class was smoking the next day.
Of course, results vary with hypnotist, I'm sure, so getting a local recommendation is important.

Watchtower · 10-13-2003, 12:16 PM

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Originally posted by purse junkie
I would guess that the same people who would call someone a "Jewess"--not in itself disrespectful but just not used much since, oh, around the Renaissance--are the same ones who have never actually met a Jew, honestly believe we killed Jesus, and are convinced that Jesus converted. As to communion--that's just surprising that they asked you. It's a uniquely Christian view about transubstantion--that the wafer/wine are thereby transformed into the actual body/blood of Christ--usually forbidden to the unbaptized and often even to excommunicated Christian 'sinners' like divorcees. In other words, usually requires belief and belonging to that faith.

An interesting exchange.

Calling you a Jewess is, I think, a lot like when people who read a lot mispronounce words they've read. All is says about them is that they haven't lived much, haven't had reason to actually communicate with other people with those words. PJ is right, this may be someone who has never met a Jew. But I don't think it follows that they would have any particularly negative view of Jews (e.g., killing Jesus, etc.); yes, that still happens, but I think it is much rarer. But where I live it is possible to spend your life without meeting anyone Jewish, and quite possibly meeting only a few people who are Catholic (though there is a Catholic church nearby). And these people sound like they were generally nice and sincere.

Transubstantion, the doctrine that the body and blood of Christ are actually present in communion, is mainly a Catholic doctrine, and is rejected by most other churches. Indeed, not all Christians even have communion (Quakers do not, for example). For some of those who have communion but not transubstantion, inviting you to share communion is akin to asking you to share a meal -- to eat in front of you without asking would be inhospitable. Some of these churches may even treat communion like a meal -- I have been to beautiful mountaintop services where we pull out several loaves of home-baked bread and a bottle of wine and puase in the service to share them among us, not each of us coming forward to eat one at a time in front of the preacher.

Hope this helps. And all those attractive Jewesses on the board should, of course, feel free to invite me to one of those Jewish services some time. It would be interesting to learn.

notcasesensitive · 10-13-2003, 12:22 PM

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Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
1. Last week I saw Eddie Izzard's standup, Sexie. It was pretty good. Not as good as his act where he goes into the history of the naming of Englebert Humperdink (or however it's spelled). Enjoyed it.

TM

I liked Dress To Kill better also, but the people I went with prefered Sexie. Some of the breast stuff was really funny. And he was sorta sexie in his slinky black number.

I was two rows in front of a stupid drunk woman who yelled stuff at him for the first 10 minutes of the show until it became evident to her that she was about to be beat senseless by 15-20 people. WTF is with people who think anyone else wants to hear their witty repartee with the standups? Me no gettee.

Shape Shifter · 10-13-2003, 12:29 PM

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Originally posted by purse junkie
I would guess that the same people who would call someone a "Jewess"--not in itself disrespectful but just not used much since, oh, around the Renaissance--are the same ones who have never actually met a Jew, honestly believe we killed Jesus, and are convinced that Jesus converted. As to communion--that's just surprising that they asked you. It's a uniquely Christian view about transubstantion--that the wafer/wine are thereby transformed into the actual body/blood of Christ--usually forbidden to the unbaptized and often even to excommunicated Christian 'sinners' like divorcees. In other words, usually requires belief and belonging to that faith.

Was the church in a rural area where hunting is popular? Maybe this is all just a twist on the "eat what you kill" policy.

Bad_Rich_Chic · 10-13-2003, 12:31 PM

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Originally posted by purse junkie
I would guess that the same people who would call someone a "Jewess"--not in itself disrespectful but just not used much since, oh, around the Renaissance--are the same ones who have never actually met a Jew, honestly believe we killed Jesus, and are convinced that Jesus converted.

Or they read Ivanhoe as a kid. That was my main exposure to the word, and I took it as archaic but pretty complimentary and respectful, since the Jewess in question was beautiful and righteous and everyone fell in love with her and she was brave in the face of persecution and all. But, yeah, it is weird, and they have probably not met many Jews or one would have mentioned it (or they'd have figured it out from the confused looks). Fortunatley, people are in general weird, and usually with the most benign of intentions.

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As to communion--that's just surprising that they asked you. It's a uniquely Christian view about transubstantion--that the wafer/wine are thereby transformed into the actual body/blood of Christ--usually forbidden to the unbaptized and often even to excommunicated Christian 'sinners' like divorcees. In other words, usually requires belief and belonging to that faith.

I was mildly surprised, but then I'm mildly surprised that protestants take communion at all because I'm of the "without literal transubstantiation what is the point?" school.

The transubstantiation belief is usually seen as one of the primary remaining fault lines between Catholics and Protestants, and originally the difference arose as a result of the protestant rejection of the special, unique relationship between the priesthood and God that enabled Christians to only achieve salvation with the intercession of the Church and its priests.* Some Protestant sects are wishy-washy on transubstantiation (particularly some higher CoE parishes - which see their schism from Catholicism as more historical and political than doctrinal, so they see themselves as basically "catholicism without the Pope" - and various hard-core literal-biblical-truth sects), and there are all kinds of differing views on the Eucharist from various places. But, usually, it appears that the more seriously the sect takes it as a sacrament, or the less they believe it is merely a symbolic gesture, the more restrictive their views on who can participate are likely to be.

But I have to say I would feel mighty strange, if I didn't believe Jesus was my saviour, engaging in (even symbolic) cannibalisms so He would always be with me. I guess I'd have that problem if I was a vegatarian, too.

BR(count me as one vote for the "wearing the yarmulke is a sign of respect for your believer hosts, by not showing disrespect for their beliefs, not engagement in a religious practice" group)C

*edited to add: yes, this is a generalization so overbroad as to be nearly irresponsible, but almost no one wants to start a discussion of the historical, political, ideological and philosophical debates underlying the protestant reformation, so it's close enough.

Flinty_McFlint · 10-13-2003, 12:34 PM

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Originally posted by dc_chef
I'm interested in downloading music (legally). Does anyone have recommendations for sites from which one can download music? I'm interested in downloading new releases, as well as some older stuff. I'm using a PC, so for the time being, Apple's iTunes is out.

Chef:

Check out Epitonic they have a lot of different types of music there, all cleared for download.

Shape Shifter · 10-13-2003, 12:36 PM

Follow up on Houston elevator decapitation story.

http://www.houstonpress.com/issues/c...l/1/index.html

Excerpt:

Elevator number 14 on the second floor of Christus St. Joseph Hospital's George W. Strake building was closed for four days. Since the elevator was being repaired, physician's assistant Karin Leah Steinau took the stairs on Thursday and Friday. On a mid-August Saturday, around 9:30 a.m., the elevator's out-of-order sign was gone, so Steinau pressed the call button.
A few yards away, surgery resident Hitoshi Christopher Nikaidoh was waiting for an elevator beside the doctor's lounge. Steinau moved to join him. Since the hospital elevators are slow, she usually waits midway between the two for whichever comes first.

The elevator nearer Steinau arrived. She stepped onto the double-wide elevator with faux wood walls, and pressed six, Steinau told Houston Police Department officers in a taped interview the next day.

"Is it working today?" Nikaidoh asked.

"I hope so," she replied.

As Nikaidoh stepped onto the elevator, the doors closed, pinning his shoulders. "He tried to pull back and he couldn't," Steinau told HPD officers. "The doors wouldn't open."

She wasn't able to find the Door Open button before the elevator started moving upward. "When you get on an elevator, if it closes on you, it's supposed to open back up," she told officers. "There wasn't any of that. There was no hesitation. The doors shut and it went."

Nikaidoh struggled, trying to shrug out of the elevator, or possibly pull himself inside, she said, but the elevator kept moving upward. The ceiling sliced off most of his head. His left ear, lower lip, teeth and jaw were still attached to his body, which fell to the bottom of the elevator shaft, as the elevator continued moving upward.

Steinau frantically pushed every button; the elevator stopped four feet below the fifth floor. She was trapped inside the elevator with his head for more than an hour.

"I just keep seeing the look in his eyes," she told officers.

evenodds · 10-13-2003, 12:46 PM

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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Follow up on Houston elevator decapitation story.

That was really disgusting.

Replaced_Texan · 10-13-2003, 12:47 PM

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Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall

2. Does anyone know anything about hypnotism? Is it all a crock of shit or what? I have a very close friend who survived something horrible and doesn't want to go to another psychiatrist. I was wondering if a hypnotist can help this person get to a point where they can actually sleep more than the 2-3 hours (never in a row) a night they get now. Any help would be appreciated.

TM

My understanding is that the hypnotherapists will have to work with someone over the course of several months for actual behavior modification to start kicking in. Someone who is going in for a quick "get me to stop slacking off on the internet all day so I can get my hours back up" in one session is likely to be disappointed, but someone who goes for several months to work on bad habits may end up really kicking the habit. I think this goes back to the dedication to the cause thing. I've heard that coming out of a hypnotherapy session is similar to coming out of a massage. Or a really good nap.

Bad_Rich_Chic · 10-13-2003, 01:01 PM

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Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Does anyone know anything about hypnotism? Is it all a crock of shit or what? I have a very close friend who survived something horrible and doesn't want to go to another psychiatrist. I was wondering if a hypnotist can help this person get to a point where they can actually sleep more than the 2-3 hours (never in a row) a night they get now. Any help would be appreciated.

I know very little about it, but, since the satanic abuse/alien abduction lost memory stuff came out, I've decided that it can be a lot more effective than I previously suspected, for some people at least.

Frankly, if the friend can get a good recommendation, why not try it? I would be surprised if many areas don't have some sort of associations of hypnotherapists that can give something resembling informed referrals. I think some psychologist/psychiatrists also use hypnosis as part of their practices.