Fashionistas you have arrived 3-25-03 - 10-3-03

[ABBAKiss]

Originally posted by notcasesensitive
Is he required to walk through a metal detector before entering your house? Or do you try really hard not to piss him off?

n(okay, maybe, just maybe, he learned some sort of valuable lesson and won't do it again... seems like a pretty serious juvenile mistake, however)cs

Actually, before I learned this he was among my favorites of the Kiss club. He is very polite and chivalrous and extermely mild mannered. Now that I know I try not to let it matter and for the most part it doesn't bother me. I know he still is tormented by this.

He was high on a bunch of stuff when this happened. Which is yet another reason not to use drugs. Unless the drug is small and blue, in which case it is okay.

[notcasesensitive]

Originally posted by Anne Elk
1. Jim Carrey is annoying, as are his movies.

2. I prefer the unedited version. Anyone see Parkinson on BBC America when he interviewed Samuel L. Jackson? He talks about filing the fight scenes in Star Wars. Apparently he was in a big green room and fighting imaginary monsters.

3. I've never seen a gun anywhere but on TV or in a cop's holster. (I've now jinxed myself and will probably see one as I walk home through the kinda-scary-but-relatively-safe-neighborhood tonight.)

I've fired a Glock. My ex bought it when we were living next to some drug dealers, so we went to a range and I shot it. Hated it and hate guns in general and feared that if someone ever broke in, they would wrestle the gun away from me and shoot it, etc., so I convinced him to sell the gun and use the proceeds to buy a cute and cuddly puppy to protect me.

[notcasesensitive]

Originally posted by ABBAKiss
Actually, before I learned this he was among my favorites of the Kiss club. He is very polite and chivalrous and extermely mild mannered. Now that I know I try not to let it matter and for the most part it doesn't bother me. I know he still is tormented by this.

He was high on a bunch of stuff when this happened. Which is yet another reason not to use drugs. Unless the drug is small and blue, in which case it is okay.

With a V?

Yes, I would assume a thing like that would torment a person for the rest of his/her life. It's the people who aren't tormented that you REALLY need to steer clear of...

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally posted by Oliver_Wendell_Ramone
The original is much funnier. Poor kid.

Poor kid. The original is much funnier. But he'll go down in history as the only film actor associated with Episodes I/II/III whose performance was not heavily dependent on CGI.

[Atticus Grinch]

Unsurprising: A bridesmaid has finally sued Vera Wang.

Surprising: It's for physical injury, not extortion or intentional infliction of emotional distress.

Originally posted by Anne Elk 3. I've never seen a gun anywhere but on TV or in a cop's holster. (I've now jinxed myself and will probably see one as I walk home through the kinda-scary-but-relatively-safe-neighborhood tonight.)

My BF in college had a roomate with a huge collection - great guy, but the guns creeped me out. He actually had a loading press built into his coffee table (you couldn't tell unless you pulled a panel up).

I had a roomate in college who had a little gun - I thought it was fake until I picked it up to dust and freaked out. She never mentioned this to me before I moved in. Don't you think this is something one should bring up beforehand?

I also had a similar gun-pointed-at-car experience like RT. And once threatened with a knife for a parking spot, but gave it up and lived to tell the tale.

-TL

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Unsurprising: A bridesmaid has finally sued Vera Wang.

Surprising: It's for physical injury, not extortion or intentional infliction of emotional distress.

Ewww - a friend of my mom's stepped on a needle and it was in her upper thigh when they pulled it out - those things travel. TL

[Jack Manfred]

The New York Times has an audio article about the New Pornographers. If you have RealPlayer, click on the link for the NYT arts index. I can't do a direct link because it's a javascript popup and I've already maxed out my tech ability.

Link to page containing New Pornographers audio article.

Happy Memorial Day weekend to those of us who can celebrate it.

[Anne Elk]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Unsurprising: A bridesmaid has finally sued Vera Wang.

Surprising: It's for physical injury, not extortion or intentional infliction of emotional distress.

So why wasn't she wearing shoes?

[robustpuppy]

Originally posted by TexLex
My BF in college had a roomate with a huge collection - great guy, but the guns creeped me out. He actually had a loading press built into his coffee table (you couldn't tell unless you pulled a panel up).

I had a roomate in college who had a little gun - I thought it was fake until I picked it up to dust and freaked out. She never mentioned this to me before I moved in. Don't you think this is something one should bring up beforehand?

-TL

Many moons ago I lived in a group house; when one of the girls got married, her hubby moved in. The other girls and I did not know, before we consented to this arrangement, that he had an enormous gun collection, mostly semi-automatics. He spent almost every Saturday cleaning them -- with the front door open, because he thought it was good for the neighbors in our peaceful suburban neighborhood to know the house was armed. He was not a great guy. His rationale for having the guns was that if the [insert offensive epithet]s ever rioted like they did in LA he'd be on the roof protecting our house (I guess because our second hand furniture and electronics were ripe for looting).

In addition to being a racist, he advocated violence against homosexuals. He also had a drinking problem, and he kicked my dog. I moved away and did not leave a forwarding address.

No guns in the house for me, largely for the reason cited by NCS.

[Jack Manfred]

I went to a University of California school for college. While most classmates were either from the Bay Area or the LA/OC area, there were a substantial minority from the Central Valley and parts north of Sacramento. It was strange to meet people who collected guns as a hobby. I remember in Torts class our professor took a poll to note the differences between SF/LA/OC/SD people (most of whom had never seen/held a gun) and people from the rest of the US (most of whom had family who hunted/thought that guns were normal).

My dad was in the military, but there were never any guns in the home. Some families that I knew from Boy Scouts hunted, but I never went. I don't think I'd ever purchase a gun or allow one in my home. They're far more likely to be used against someone in the family than against an intruder. If I was a crack shot, maybe I'd think differently.

Obviously, many in America don't share my beliefs. I do think there's a difference between having a handgun, rifle, or shotgun and having many, many guns. My main problem with guns is that many are kept loaded and unlocked among children. There are few things more irresponsible. If you have a gun in the house, it should be kept locked and unloaded. If you have a gun in the house with children, they should go to a gun safety course at a very young age (10-12). That may seem young to some, but kids are naturally curious, so it's better to have them trained. I was suitably chastened after taking a rifle/shotgun safety course as a Boy Scout, so I think it was a good experience for me.

The leases I've signed have all banned guns from the apartment. Maybe that doesn't fly in the red states. Regardless, I think the presence of a gun is one of those things that must be disclosed before leases are signed. Others would be that you're a meth cooker, that you've been committed to a mental health facility, or that you're a vegan.

[leagleaze]

I have never seen a lease here that limits the ability to keep a gun. I would be surprised if I came across such a thing given how pro gun Pennsylvania is. Heck kids here get the first day of dear season off from school.

The only time I recall seeing such a thing was in College and they made provisions for you to keep your gun elsewhere.

I personally am very uncomfortable with the idea of owning a gun. I dated a woman who owned two, and she taught me to shoot them, and I actually took some comfort in the fact she had them, which surprised me. It also surprised me I wasn't in the least upset that she had them, and never gave it a second thought after she told me about it. I also had no interest in them. I found shooting rather boring, and it seemed like a lot of work to have to clean them afterwards, never mind go someplace where we could shoot since there are all sorts of rules about where you can discharge the gun, and for some strange reason that didn't include in her back yard. Go figure.

I am glad she told me pretty early on though, I am not sure how I would have felt had I slept over a few times and only then learned about the gun.

Either way, having guns around children, without supervision, is to me a recipe for disaster. Kids are simply too curious, guns are fascinating to them. Though how you will get to your gun if you need it when it is locked in a safe is a whole different issue. Still, what are the chances someone will actually break into your home and you will need the gun to defend yourself, really? Are the chances greater that someone in the house will end up dead, either through an accident or a fit of temper?

These are questions I am asking, cause I don't know the answer. But I have always been under the impression that the latter is more likely. Is this a piece of information the anti-gun lobby has gotten me to believe, or is it so?

By the way, welcome back everyone. Hope you all had a great 3 day weekend. So what did every one do on the unofficial start to summer?

I purchased a new kayak and took it out into one of our smaller, though rather high, rivers. (No this isn't the start of a Bilmore joke.) I managed to get wonderfully muddy. Mainly cause the bank where I landed was very muddy and it was almost impossible to get a foot purchase. Down I went. It was hilarious.

I also managed to flip the kayak in an effort to do a roll, but well, I can't really do that yet and damn the water was rather chilly.

The reactions of my neigbors on seeing a bright yellow kayak on the roof of my rather small car, followed by their looks when they saw me covered head to toe with mud, were pretty amusing.

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by leagleaze
I have never seen a lease here that limits the ability to keep a gun.

Nor have I, in the red states in which I lived. Though I rarely circulate in the company of avid gunners, even among the unarmed masses I think people there would find such a clause a bit surprising. It's a cultural thing, I suppose.

Still, what are the chances someone will actually break into your home and you will need the gun to defend yourself, really? Are the chances greater that someone in the house will end up dead, either through an accident or a fit of temper? ... I have always been under the impression that the latter is more likely. Is this a piece of information the anti-gun lobby has gotten me to believe, or is it so?

I believe it is so, though I've not done the research. In my family, our perception of that risk is colored by history, in which a (somewhat distant) relative died in a gun-related accident.

By the way, welcome back everyone. Hope you all had a great 3 day weekend. So what did every one do on the unofficial start to summer?

Got soggy through two and a half days of rain. Sadly, no kayak was involved.

Gattigap

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by Mister_Ruysbroeck
Agreed. How this man continues to get scripts is beyond me.

Easy answer. $86.4 over the four day weekend.

TM

[evenodds]

Originally posted by leagleaze
I have never seen a lease here that limits the ability to keep a gun. I would be surprised if I came across such a thing given how pro gun Pennsylvania is. Heck kids here get the first day of dear season off from school.

Kids? Dear Season? How sweet.

Texas is big for hunting, etc., so there are plenty of guns. Plus, we have the concealed carry law, so people are often packing everywhere except schools, bars, and court.

I grew up in a house with two handguns and a rifle. I never knew we had them until one of my brother's friends stole the Walther PPK. (They were 20 years old when it happened, so we had no knowledge of having guns in the house when we were kids. Apparently they were hidden in the batting under the sofas where we could never ever find them. Nor would it occur to us to look since we didn't know we had them.)

I first handled a gun when I was in law school. It was a very big handgun. I knew where my roommate kept it for protection, so I picked it up when she and the attack dog were on a hunting trip and I thought people were trying to break into our house. Handling it scared me as much as the three people peering into the windows of our house.

We currently own no guns, though we may buy a rifle or two. Like my father, the OM is a qualifed expert marksman from his time in the service, so I am comfortable with his ability to handle a firearm. (I would take a training course.) I cannot imagine owning a handgun, but a rifle seems reasonable.

As for the weekend, my "in-laws" visited for an extended shopping trip. We booked them into a hotel, so it was time-consuming, but considerably less irritating than if they stayed with us. The best part of having them here is that time passed so slowly when they were around that the weekend seemed about a week and a half long.

E/O