Fashionistas you have arrived 3-25-03 - 10-3-03

[Atticus Grinch]

Re: American Wedding, can anyone think of a trilogy (or more) where the original was good, the II sucked, and the III was any kind of improvement on II? My personal guess is that if you're sliding by II, going to III ain't gonna reverse the trend.

The only exceptions I can think of are Indiana Jones, and possibly Rocky.

I say this because, having seen American Pies I and II, I'm really not hopeful that Jason Biggs is the next Harrison Ford.

[Aloha Mr. Learned Hand]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Re: American Wedding, can anyone think of a trilogy (or more) where the original was good, the II sucked, and the III was any kind of improvement on II? My personal guess is that if you're sliding by II, going to III ain't gonna reverse the trend.

The only exceptions I can think of are Indiana Jones, and possibly Rocky.

I say this because, having seen American Pies I and II, I'm really not hopeful that Jason Biggs is the next Harrison Ford.

I generally agree with your assessment, Atticus. Though I thought the 2nd American Pie was o.k. (not good but not awful), I do not have high hopes for this one, as I heard most of the female leads aren't in it and one of the guys is out too. While the movies are mostly about the guys' friendship, I'm not optimistic...

As for Indiana Jones, ANYTHING would have been an improvement over Temple of Doom... One of the worst cases of Hollywood nepotism by people not named Coppola ever!!! As I said before, I will have to come up with creative uses for that DVD when it comes out because, like Godfather III, I will NEVER watch it...

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by tmdiva
The show with the Downs kid (and Patti Lupone as mom) was called Life Goes On. Don't ask me how I know that--it's not like I ever watched it.

tm

Yeah, I realize I knew that, for the entirely innocent reason that it came on, in my syndication area, right before wide world of sports, or some other similar show.

[str8outavannuys]

Originally posted by ThrashersFan
Or simply limit your comments to "kick his fucking ass!" and "where is that fucking beer man?"

Thrashers(wasn't raised to sit still and be quiet at hockey)Fan:cheers:

The easiest thing to shout at a hockey game and appear knowledgeable is: "Don't just stand there, hit somebody!"

Another way to pass yourself off as wise is to comment "next goal is huge." - Always the case if the game is within 2 goals.

str8.

[str8outavannuys]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Re: American Wedding, can anyone think of a trilogy (or more) where the original was good, the II sucked, and the III was any kind of improvement on II? My personal guess is that if you're sliding by II, going to III ain't gonna reverse the trend.

The only exceptions I can think of are Indiana Jones, and possibly Rocky.

I say this because, having seen American Pies I and II, I'm really not hopeful that Jason Biggs is the next Harrison Ford.

How about Grease III
Well, we can hope.
I actually thought the third Indiana Jones movie was better than the second.
And the Sports Guy made a case that Rocky 3 was better (or at least, more fun to watch) than Rocky 2.

But for the most part, you're clearly right.

str8.

To bottom line it, the only sublime performer was Ruben and man was he good last night. If there was a CD called Ruben Interprets the Bee Gees, it would go on my laminated list. I called in for him ten times and I have never called in for anyone before. I hope you guys did too.

Josh Round One: It was as if some deadhead slipped into Sigma Epsilon and dosed the keg. What was up with the fist pumping and sticking his huge head into the camera? Is that some sort of cracker dance? There is a reason spinning hippie chicks take acid and jarheads drink beer.

Round Two: For Josh, not bad at all. And far superior to the tiresome prancing balladeer's version which was so very same shit different week.

Clay Round One: See above. Has anyone noticed that he is starting to get a weird pinched look to his face? Like he got a facelift? He actually is resembling Siegfried. or Roy, esp with the grotesque pancake makeup and pink lipstick. As my sister said, he is just creepy. He is lost in the twilight zone of gay straight man and gay gay man. My sister thinks he is straight but should just be gay already- otherwise it makes him some kind of reverse trannie. Someone put him out of his misery, or ours.

Round Two: I think one of Josh's frat pledges was ordered to go to the misfit frat, steal one of the freaks and threaten atomic wedgies if they didnt do karaoke Grease. Clay did a decent Frankie Vallie imitation, which doesnt mean it is entertaining for anyone but a closeted jarhead frat guy. He should be bottom two this week.

Kim- Round one. Just sucked.
Round Two- just sucked. Emotion was one of my favorite songs as a kid- I can remember getting the KTel album which had it on there. This was not even close to the Samantha Sang version. She could be safe this week bc my sister, who thought she just sucked this week, called in for her bc she thought she needed the protection. My sister is also not a caller. I almost called in for her as well for the same reason, but feared it would siphon off m Ruben votes and if I dont see him on this show again, I will be just sad bc he is so gifted.

Kim Locke, when on, is very very excellent, but she is not as consistent as she should be. The only way she isnt bottom two is if there are many voters like my sister. Tough call between her and Josh for the other spot in the bottom two. Josh did Josh good on one tune which generally is enough to protect him, so I will go Clay and Kim for bottom two, Kim goes bc there are a lot of twelve year olds "Aiken for Clay". Which is so gross btw.

http://espn.go.com/tennis/news/2003/0506/1550136.html

spree: Richard Williams on racism in tennis, sounding a little like Charles Manson quite frankly

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
Worst was sort of cumulative, but it was capped by the offending 9 year old distant relation coming up to me and grabbing my crotch, saying "I know what you've got down there, all sluts have cunts!" I did smack him - backhanded him actually. There was a knife next to me, the fucker was lucky. Yes, the parents needed to be beaten with sticks, but they were too drunk to do anything but fight.

I'm glad you smacked that kid. I hope you did it hard. The parents should have been forcibly removed with child, from wherever you were, with a swift, firm kick to the ass region. If they were too drunk to do anything but fight, good. Have the Mr. beat that ass.

Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
On abusing guilty parents, I still fondly remember having dinner once with some HS friends and one of their fathers, who was a real curmudgeon (er, that's a compliment in my world). There were two little kids running around unattended and shrieking, doing the "bad kid in a restaurant" thing. My friend's father complained to the waiter a couple of times. Finally, one of the kids, running while looking backwards at the chasing kid, smacked into someone's table and sloshed their drinks all over, and plopped down in the middle of the restaurant screaming. My friends' father slammed his fist down on the table and stood up, bellowing "Get me the manager, I demand that it be removed immediately. And [pointing at the parents], if you do what is right you'll kill it before it can grow up." He got scattered applause, actually.

This reaction is over the top. Some kids have problems and if the children were young enough and the parents were bad enough, the blame for their behavior falls squarely on the parents' shoulders. Improperly behaved children should not be put in that setting and allowed free reign and children otherwise well behaved who lose it should be removed from such a setting immediately. But the "kill it" crap is offensive and stupid and in the event that the child is a product of the parents' stupidity, quite possibly hurtful and harmful to the child in a way that could stick. Meaning, it might actually encourage the child to continue to engage in such behavior. Your friend's father could have found something better to say and should have aimed his insult at the parents.

TM

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by robustpuppy
Ultimately, though, I fear my relationship with my child won't be as satisfying as I've imagined/fantasized.

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Well, duh. I assure you it won't be. Note, however, that only a control freak would think this has anything to do with whether it is worthwhile.

Interesting. I've found the exact opposite to be true.

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
I'm here to tell you, everybody wants to go to Paris --- who wouldn't? But we all wind up in Helsinki or Edinburgh or Rome or Vilnius or Minsk, and surprisingly few of us are bitching about it. If you're not prepared to surrender that kind of control, parenting is not for you. If you'd sulk in your hotel room, parenting is not for you. If you'd immediately ask the concierge whether Vilnius has any good titty bars, you'll be just fine.

Aha. Now I see what you're saying. (The titty analogy helped, thanks.) You're not saying that your relationship with your child won't be as satisfying as you would expect, you're saying that your relationship with your child won't be what you imagined or fantisized it would be. That makes perfect sense, but the people who don't understand this probably get upset every time something doesn't turn out exactly the way the dreamed it to be (which I guess is why your analogy works so well and this post is pointless -- good job, TM).

TM

[purse junkie]

Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic

On abusing guilty parents, I still fondly remember having dinner once with some HS friends and one of their fathers, who was a real curmudgeon (er, that's a compliment in my world). There were two little kids running around unattended and shrieking, doing the "bad kid in a restaurant" thing. My friend's father complained to the waiter a couple of times. Finally, one of the kids, running while looking backwards at the chasing kid, smacked into someone's table and sloshed their drinks all over, and plopped down in the middle of the restaurant screaming. My friends' father slammed his fist down on the table and stood up, bellowing "Get me the manager, I demand that it be removed immediately. And [pointing at the parents], if you do what is right you'll kill it before it can grow up." He got scattered applause, actually. I've always wished since that I had the balls to make a scene like that.

I will never understand parents who bring their children to totally inappropriate settings without regard to the people around them. You have enough money to eat at a nice restaurant? Hire a goddamn baby sitter while you're at it. You can't find a really good one? A 12 year old kid couldn't possibly do a worse job than you so hire it.

Next time I will demand that the idiot parents pay for my meal which they've just wrecked. If the kid was raised to be a moron, you can't really blame it unless it's old enough to observe what the proper behavior ought to be.

p(not entirely without mercy, though entirely without sympathy)j

Originally posted by paigowprincess
http://espn.go.com/tennis/news/2003/0506/1550136.html

spree: Richard Williams on racism in tennis, sounding a little like Charles Manson quite frankly

That guy is the biggest idiot. What is it about tennis fathers anyway? His daughters ought to tell him to shut his mouth. It's their spotlight and hard work. Not his.

Serena and venus are the biggest and most popular stars of women's tennis in years and years and should be thanking the tennis tour for making them millionaires many times over.

I don't hear Tiger whining about racism on the PGA, even though I suspect it's probably a lot worse there. Heck, they play routinely at clubs that probably didn't have a single black member until the last decade.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by tmdiva
The show with the Downs kid (and Patti Lupone as mom) was called Life Goes On. Don't ask me how I know that--it's not like I ever watched it.

Was the kid's name Corky?

Even if it wasn't, I saw that guy in Tower Video the other day. I did not see him go into the porn section.

TM

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall

Aha. Now I see what you're saying. (The titty analogy helped, thanks.) You're not saying that your relationship with your child won't be as satisfying as you would expect, you're saying that your relationship with your child won't be what you imagined or fantisized it would be. That makes perfect sense, but the people who don't understand this probably get upset every time something doesn't turn out exactly the way the dreamed it to be (which I guess is why your analogy works so well and this post is pointless -- good job, TM).

TM

Having kids certainly forced me to learn to "go with the flow" a bit more. Where my apartment used to be spotless and pristine, I have learned to deal with toys on the floor and peanut butter occasionally smeared on the table top. Where I made a ritual out of reading the morning newspaper cover to cover on weekends, now, I can maybe get through the front page and sports before the kids make me get up and play. Where I used to go to happy hour and get platered most Friday nights, now I rush home to play soccer or something with the the little guys. All in all, a good set of changes for me. Your mileage may vary.

[purse junkie]

Since being shot by your husband's bimbo jailbait mistress wasn't enough to have jump-started the process 10 years ago...

http://entertainment.msn.com/news/ar...px?news=121659

They've both found new loves. :love:

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Was the kid's name Corky?

Even if it wasn't, I saw that guy in Tower Video the other day. I did not see him go into the porn section.

TM

You saw Corky? Does he look like a washed up actor?