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05-13-2003, 03:24 PM
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There is no solution.
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Originally posted by ThrashersFan
Being what is considered a casual smoker, I have actually quit for years at a time and even today with having taken up the habit again average less than 5 per day and never smoke before sundown. I am confident that I could walk away.
Perhaps you are correct and I did insert some sarcasm to make my point. I also have a mean streak and low tolerance for people who will not take responsbility for their actions.
Of course, most of really gross fatties are too big to get out of the house so we only have to contend with the "normal" fatties. My biggest problem is not with the fatties themselves but with their attitude and excuses. Most smokers I know are polite about it and will ask before lighting up and will generally not impose their smoking on others unless it is permitted by both the establishment and their companions. Fatties blame their situation on everyone and want the world to change for them. Fatties do not apologize to you when they take up half your seat on an airplane or in a movie theatre -- they sue the airlines and the movie houses for not making the seats big enough. Fatties do not apologize when they squeeze into a seat at the table behind you and smash you into your own table until you cannot breath -- they blame the restaurant for putting the tables too close together. Fatties sit in restaurants and alone order as much as everyone at your table combined and sluppily inhale all of it and then want healthcare when they cannot walk or breath. Finally, fatties stuff their faces with a whole bag of Oreos in one sitting and then want the cookies banned so that people who can control themselves and enjoy a couple of Oreos now and then cannot because the fatties don't want to exercise any self-control.
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I hate the flab overflow onto my subway seat as much as the next guy, the guy who cant fold his WSJ in half when reading it and the guy who jabs me with his umbrella. But, I hae to wonder if this blatant sizism isnt couterproductive. I mean, maybe this attitude is perceived by our larger friends and this induces self loathing, which drives them to binge? You actually seem to have downright contempt for these folks. Maybe that isnt good?
Case in point. I had an episode somewhat recently where this motherjumpin huge, and i mean huge, woman was waddling down Connecticut Ave in Dupont Circle and I was trying to walk briskly past her, passing on the left. Except she was really hard to pass bc of her size and the stupid trees that areplanted every five feet. Between them, I didnt hav e the sidewalk space. So I said, excuse me and tried to wedge my way trhough before the next sidewalk tree. She completely SNAPPED at me. So, the follwoing words flew out of my mouth without my being able to stop them "You take up too much space" (and obviously this is a personal issue for me as anyone who has read my umbrella posts would know- i hate crowded disorderly sidewalks where fast walksers cannot walk at a decent pace on the left side of the walk). I felt so awful after I said that, just horrible. And had she not been such a bitch in the first place, I woul d have apologozied, I probably drove that woman to have a gigantic steak and fries and milkshake snack.
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05-13-2003, 03:25 PM
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#5672
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Wearing the cranky pants
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Pulling your finger
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There is no solution.
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Originally posted by ThrashersFan
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Nice rant. It reminded me of one of mine (which I don't have the time to find right now) suggesting that big vats of arsenic or cyanide pills be placed in maximum security prison cafeterias. If violent felons want to commit suicide, we should encourage it. If people want to knowingly eat/drink/smoke themselves to death before they become drains on Social Security and the health care system, we should encourage that too. They should also be denied tax-payer funded medical assistance, i.e. no Medicare funded transplants for people that smoked/drank their functioning organs away.
Keep it up.
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05-13-2003, 03:29 PM
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Too Good For Post Numbers
Join Date: Mar 2003
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Attention Hockey People
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Originally posted by ThrashersFan
We also had a drunken sport called broomball. Did you ever play? Sort of hockey with taped up broom, a ball, no pads or skates, on ice after midnight. Add alcohol and stir.
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Oh, good lord. You're from here.
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05-13-2003, 03:32 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Here
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There is no solution
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Originally posted by Less Nice rant. It reminded me of one of mine (which I don't have the time to find right now) suggesting that big vats of arsenic or cyanide pills be placed in maximum security prison cafeterias. If violent felons want to commit suicide, we should encourage it. If people want to knowingly eat/drink/smoke themselves to death before they become drains on Social Security and the health care system, we should encourage that too. They should also be denied tax-payer funded medical assistance, i.e. no Medicare funded transplants for people that smoked/drank their functioning organs away.
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But that's not the way it's moving is it? Isn't there a facility in Portland that manufactured a large gurney and ambulance for people over 400 pounds - since previously there weren't any? Isn't it a sign that if you're too big to fit in an ambulance that maybe perhaps that is your fate?
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05-13-2003, 03:32 PM
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I am beyond a rank!
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Glasgow, natch.
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Web Toilet a hoax
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Web toilet
I love it when the AP and WSJ get pranked.
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My brother registered www.ebathroom.com in 1996. He sold it for $1,000.
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05-13-2003, 03:34 PM
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Moderator
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Location: Flower
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Attention Hockey People
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Originally posted by bilmore
Oh, good lord. You're from here.
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Not necessarily. Broomball is also really big in South Australia.
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05-13-2003, 03:36 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: NYC
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There is no solution.
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Originally posted by paigowprincess
Case in point. I had an episode somewhat recently where this motherjumpin huge, and i mean huge, woman was waddling down Connecticut Ave in Dupont Circle and I was trying to walk briskly past her...So, the follwoing words flew out of my mouth without my being able to stop them "You take up too much space"...I probably drove that woman to have a gigantic steak and fries and milkshake snack.
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No doubt at the steakhouse on Pennsylvania Avenue.
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05-13-2003, 03:44 PM
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05-13-2003, 03:52 PM
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Think Outside the Jar
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Marinating
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Fatness and Health Problems
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Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
I Even my mom's broken arm a few years ago got a "are you sure you need to go to the ER?" from my physician father. Unless we required a respirator, we were never deemed sick enough to garner much sympathy from those who were qualified to make decisions about our heatlh care.
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I think we are related. My Dad's cure for most injuries is to tell you to "walk it off". When my cousin broke his arm jumping down a flight of stairs, he was taken to the hospital by my aunt but his complaints about the pain where met with "shut up, no one told you to jump down the stairs, so just shut the hell up."
I am not married, but sometimes I think it would be nice to settle down and raise a dysfunctional family.
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05-13-2003, 03:56 PM
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Random Syndicate (admin)
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Romantically enfranchised
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There is no solution
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Originally posted by NotFromHere
But that's not the way it's moving is it? Isn't there a facility in Portland that manufactured a large gurney and ambulance for people over 400 pounds - since previously there weren't any? Isn't it a sign that if you're too big to fit in an ambulance that maybe perhaps that is your fate?
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In my college years, I worked in a hospital as a nurses' aide. There were three patients that required special beds because they weighed over a certain amount. (I think the limit on the "normal" beds was 350, but I know one of the patients was in the 400s.) Story relating to one of the patients At one point one summer (late 80s early 90s), we had more patients that needed the bed than we had beds.
The biggest problem for all patients that are bed confined is bed sores. "Normal" patients who are confied to their beds will develop sores where their body weight presses down the most. Usually on their backs, their hips and their shoulders. That's why nurses turn bed confined patients every two hours or so: to evenly distribute the weight, and to make sure that certain pressure points are not overly burdened with the weight of the patient. Even with turning, the sores can develop very easily, and once they develop, they're very difficult to treat. We had one patient who was paralyzed (fortunately) from the neck down. I could literally put my fist inside the hole in his back.
Anyhow, the problem with these morbidly obese people is that they have even more weight pressing down, and it's very hard to keep the weight from pressing down on the pressure points. The beds that help prevent pressure ulcers are ususally some sort of air system, so the patient is lying on a sophisticated air mattress that presses up in the spots most likely to have pressure ulcers, and the weight isn't pressing down on anything. Of course, the heavier the patient, the more likely that weight is going to overwhelm the pressure of the air.
I'm certain that in the decade or so that I've bee out of ICUs the equipment has gotten more sophisticated, but it's very expensive, and I'm sure that they're probably needing more of it than they did back then.
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05-13-2003, 03:57 PM
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#5681
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Puck You
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Surrounded by idiots and assholes.
Posts: 1,076
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There is no solution.
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Originally posted by paigowprincess
I hate the flab overflow onto my subway seat as much as the next guy, the guy who cant fold his WSJ in half when reading it and the guy who jabs me with his umbrella. But, I hae to wonder if this blatant sizism isnt couterproductive. I mean, maybe this attitude is perceived by our larger friends and this induces self loathing, which drives them to binge? You actually seem to have downright contempt for these folks. Maybe that isnt good?
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I am actually worse than everyone thinks. You see, I would never be outwardly rude, mean, disrespectful, whatever to anyone on the street and would similarly never allow my offspring to do such things. I am one of those contemptable people who just stews in it. My sister and father are both fatties and I have in the past caused them pain and regret it because I should have offered constructive criticism rather than nasty comments. I firmly believe that people should be who or what they want so long as they do not hurt other people. It is not the being fat that is so much the problem as is the attitude that comes along with it. It is not only fat people who have this attitude issue but they ar a good example.
Fatties generally do not consider how their extra girth impacts those around them, they think we need to make concessions for their lack of self-control in the eating department. Be fat if you want, but don't push it on me by sitting in half my seat and then acting like it is anyone's fault but your own. I don't smoke unless I am in an area that permits smoking and even then I am aware of my companions and others around me and may either move away from them or not smoke at all if the situation would prove annoying (although I don't always extend the same courtesy to non-snokers who choose to sit in the smoking section rather than wait for table in non-smoking and then make comments and fake cough, etc.). And the current push by fatties to have things like Oreos outlawed because they cannot control themselves is just like how television has bowed down to the parents who refuse to control the viewing habits of their children and would rather have good adult shows taken off the air, neutered or moved to a later time slot so the rest of us cannot enjoy them.
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05-13-2003, 04:02 PM
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#5682
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Puck You
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Surrounded by idiots and assholes.
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Attention Hockey People
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Originally posted by Pretty Little Flower
Not necessarily. Broomball is also really big in South Australia.
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And quaint little places in the US close to the border where football is queen (can't be king until you win the big one and going to the show multiple times in a row doesn't count), the French Connection would be ashamed at what has become of their hockey team and the snow is almost as deep as the bullshit spouted by its residents but the food is good and you can always sneak a case of non-import Labatts or Brador across the bridge.
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05-13-2003, 04:06 PM
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No title
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Here
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Orginally posted by RT
Anyhow, the problem with these morbidly obese people is that they have even more weight pressing down, and it's very hard to keep the weight from pressing down on the pressure points. The beds that help prevent pressure ulcers are ususally some sort of air system, so the patient is lying on a sophisticated air mattress that presses up in the spots most likely to have pressure ulcers, and the weight isn't pressing down on anything. Of course, the heavier the patient, the more likely that weight is going to overwhelm the pressure of the air.
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Well I guess the question is...do these people get charged more because it takes 4 orderlies to roll their fat ass over instead of 1?
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05-13-2003, 04:09 PM
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Moderator
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Monty Capuletti's gazebo
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There is no solution.
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Originally posted by paigowprincess
I hate the flab overflow onto my subway seat as much as the next guy, the guy who cant fold his WSJ in half when reading it and the guy who jabs me with his umbrella. But, I hae to wonder if this blatant sizism isnt couterproductive. I mean, maybe this attitude is perceived by our larger friends and this induces self loathing, which drives them to binge? You actually seem to have downright contempt for these folks. Maybe that isnt good?
Case in point. I had an episode somewhat recently where this motherjumpin huge, and i mean huge, woman was waddling down Connecticut Ave in Dupont Circle and I was trying to walk briskly past her, passing on the left. Except she was really hard to pass bc of her size and the stupid trees that areplanted every five feet. Between them, I didnt hav e the sidewalk space. So I said, excuse me and tried to wedge my way trhough before the next sidewalk tree. She completely SNAPPED at me. So, the follwoing words flew out of my mouth without my being able to stop them "You take up too much space" (and obviously this is a personal issue for me as anyone who has read my umbrella posts would know- i hate crowded disorderly sidewalks where fast walksers cannot walk at a decent pace on the left side of the walk). I felt so awful after I said that, just horrible. And had she not been such a bitch in the first place, I woul d have apologozied, I probably drove that woman to have a gigantic steak and fries and milkshake snack.
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Paigow,
I have been busted a few times muttering under my breath "Lose some fucking weight" when I can't get around some fat sow walking slowly and taking up half the sidewalk. Amazingly, they seem to find it rude for me to dart around them like a car passing on a two lane highway. They're utterly oblivious to how their girth and subsequent inability to ambulate quickly slows down the entire sidewalk. Say all you like about smokers taking up space around buildings puffing away - they aren't half as intrusive and annoying as Aunt Jemima and Mrs. Buttersworth having a conversation while slowly ambling their immense rugby-ball-sized cheeks down the sidewalk.
Hey, dumb fat middle management/admin zombie porkers - people behind you are in a hurry to get back to the office - either walk at reasonable speed or get a promotion and take a cab wherever you're going. Your slow walking discussion about "the new girl" in the secretarial pool is holding back half the block.
S("The lazy skinny Homer is gone - now I'm a big fat dynamo")D
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05-13-2003, 04:13 PM
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#5685
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Puck You
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Surrounded by idiots and assholes.
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From the What the Fuck File
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,86759,00.html
Spree: Mother in Texas kills two young sons and injures third WITH FUCKING ROCKS!!!
What is with people? We need to come up with some sort crazy-ass person detector and kill these people before they do shit like this. Didn't anyone, her husband, anyone, notice that this bitch was turning the corner into killing your own kids land? I have a kid and he pushes my buttons sometimes but how the hell do you take your kids out back in their underpants and stone them to death? They should simply shoot this bitch and be done with it. As my father would say, this country is heading towards a shitpool on a waterslide.
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