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04-03-2003, 01:54 PM
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#646
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Too Good For Post Numbers
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 65,535
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In defense of Elvis
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Originally posted by JustForFun
I just get so many offers for sex from men that I have become de-sentisized to them.
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When they say "fuck off", I don't think they're making an offer.
(Never would have said that until you maligned Sabbath.)
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04-03-2003, 01:59 PM
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#647
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No Junk In This Trunk
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: People's Republic of California
Posts: 115
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In defense of Elvis
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Originally posted by bilmore
When they say "fuck off", I don't think they're making an offer.
(Never would have said that until you maligned Sabbath.)
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Well, they aren't so uncouth as to come right out and ask me for sex. They just are always trying to be around me and ask me to lunch/dinner and to go places with them and buy me things. I just assume that it is because they want sex, but maybe I am too cynical.
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04-03-2003, 02:01 PM
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#648
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Consigliere
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Pelosi Land!
Posts: 9,477
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Heresy
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JustForFun
You give Sabbath too much credit. Sabbath is/was overrated.
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How dare you! Are you truly fucking insane?
Being an annoying, verbose troll is one thing - but maligning one of the top 5 most important bands of the last 40 years is another.
not7y( :wtf: )S
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04-03-2003, 02:02 PM
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#649
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In defense of Elvis
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Originally posted by Oliver_Wendell_Ramone
My point? Just that early on, Elvis rawked, and was doing a whole lot more than watering down blues and gospel.
And STP were more a flat rip off than watered-down anything. Pearl Jam, otoh, became popular by watering down lots of more interesting stuff that was going on in the great NW (e.g. Green River, which Gossard and Ament were actually in, Mudhoney, early Soundgarden, Melvins, Nirvana). Which bands were, in turn, largely playing Sabbath through a punk rock lens.
Ollie (don't get me started on the late 80s NW music scene) Ramone
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You are my own personal married poster who lives somewhere I never go who I assume is hot based on his great posts who I would definitely cyberstalk and otherwise generally try to contact all the time if I were sunny bunny. You rawk.
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04-03-2003, 02:04 PM
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#650
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No Junk In This Trunk
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: People's Republic of California
Posts: 115
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In defense of Elvis
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Originally posted by purse junkie
can you please quit harpin' on your perfection to the rest of us, Aphrodite?
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Hey, the only bodies I have talked about today are E/O's MIL ass, which apparently spends too much time sitting on the couch, Melissa Rivers' supposedly fake boobs that look disasterously real, and Carmen Electra/Pamela Anderson Lee Kid Rock's high riders.
It is the rest of you that keep bringing up my body. Fine with me. Keep up the good work, people! 
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04-03-2003, 02:04 PM
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#651
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In defense of Elvis
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Originally posted by bilmore butler
When they say "fuck off", I don't think they're making an offer.
(Never would have said that until you maligned Sabbath.)
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BB, didn't you play bass for them?
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04-03-2003, 02:05 PM
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#652
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I am beyond a rank!
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Glasgow, natch.
Posts: 2,807
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I wish I was a little bit taller....I wish I was a baller
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Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Interesting. I don't see much of a difference at all. You like to over-generalize by saying "genre," but when I see someone convert someone else's style as best they can, that seems more dishonest. For example, Gauguin might not have reproduced actual pieces by Tahitian artists, but in my opinion, his work after his stay there is less "influenced by" and more "stolen from" Tahitians. Skeelo (in this case) is not implying that he is the genius behind that particular line. He picked it out BECAUSE it was recognizable.
And I can't speak to Skeelo's exact "stolen" stanza, but you can't really call it thievery when artists now get permission and pay the original artist an arm and a leg for each sample.
I think rap music is creative in that it takes bits and pieces of all types of music and transforms it into something new. I believe that's the very definition of postmodern. I also think it's not so unique a practice among black people who have historically had to make do with less resources. Can't afford to form a band? No instruments? No problem. Two turntables and a microphone. Create some beats, find a sample and get to it.
TM
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A pro pos of nothing, don't you think that the eight bars of synth-violin before the opening lyric of (and elsewhere throughout) Eurythmics' "Sweet Dreams (Are Made Of This)" would be an outstanding beat for someone to sample? I should be a producer, I swear. What other classics are out there waiting to be sampled?
str(The Neptunes ain't got NOTHIN on me)8.
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04-03-2003, 02:07 PM
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#653
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No Junk In This Trunk
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: People's Republic of California
Posts: 115
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Heresy
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
How dare you! Are you truly fucking insane?
Being an annoying, verbose troll is one thing - but maligning one of the top 5 most important bands of the last 40 years is another.
not7y( :wtf: )S
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Hi rapist wannabe, haven't seen you around in awhile.
You know the members of those "top 5 most important bands of the last 40 years"? They call people like you, the "little people." But keep defending them. They are laughing AT you all the way to the bank. I am sure they appreciate it.
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04-03-2003, 02:12 PM
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#655
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I am beyond a rank!
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Glasgow, natch.
Posts: 2,807
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Movie recommendations?
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Originally posted by evenodds
Ours started dubbed, too. It took a little while but we found the subtitles.
Why do they dub movies?
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I think the dubbing sometimes enhances the movie-going experience. John Woo's "The Killer" is far superior dubbed (and I've seen each 5+ times); I love Chow and Sally Yeh's bizarre british accents. For some reason, the jump-cut to Chow Yun Fat opening the door playing harmonica (after hearing what we assume to be non-diagetic background harmonica music for about 5 seconds) is just not as funny in the subtitled version.
Str(I could talk about The Killer all day, really I could)8.
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04-03-2003, 02:12 PM
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#656
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Guest
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For the love of God
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
I cannot believe I have to come out of my self-imposed exile to remind you of this, yet again -
0zzY with a "Y"
not7y(like DS with her use of "loose" - sheesh)S
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First off, this was funnie
Second, why the self imposed exile? Didnt you do a lot of work to get this going? why not help keep it going by throwing in your oft funny commentary? Obviously you are lurking so its not like you are afraid of being caught surfing here or allt he time it takes to follwo the boards. Surely you are past the SI style goodbye and all the attendant, please dont go we love you bullshit (except this post). And you know that you are probably not gonna get huge rounds of welcome back, long time no see, the board was empty without you, bc nobody does that anymore.
SO whats the point? You dont want to have a huge number of posts like me and Francis? WHo gives a shit? Does it really matter in the grand scheme of things? Isnt the whole point of being here to entertain yourself?
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04-03-2003, 02:22 PM
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#657
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Hello, Dum-Dum.
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 10,117
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I wish I was a little bit taller....I wish I was a baller
Re: the propriety of quoting lyrics and riffs, popular dance music has been doing that farther back than people even thought that music was entitled to copyright protection. Soloists in Dixieland jazz bands could get a cheap rise out of a dance hall crowd by throwing in a improvisational lick from popular song B while riffing on popular song A. The artist didn't have any sense of responsibility for whether every single listener realized it was a quotation, because music doesn't have footnotes. In that sense, sampling and plagiarism has a proud history that predates recorded music.
To put it into your generation's terms, BB, don't condemn the Beatles for throwing that cut from La Marseillaise before "All You Need Is Love." Even if your comrades fought and died while singing that song on the battlements of Paris.
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04-03-2003, 02:29 PM
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#658
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Moderator
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Flower
Posts: 8,434
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I'm not trying to hear that, see?
What's your man got to do with me?
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Originally posted by JustForFun
Sorry, wasn't trying to ignore you. I don't ignore anyone 'cept Gardener, that is. I just get so many offers for sex from men that I have become de-sentisized to them.
I am taken. I have a hottie b/f who likes to see me naked.
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Taken, shmaken. Do you really think your hottie boyfriend is going to mean anything to you once I come to town? You are mine. Maybe not right now. Maybe not tomorrow. But soon. In fact, I think I have some "depos" scheduled for your neck of the woods real soon. You can put on some Elvis. I'll wear a G.I. uniform. We'll fuck like animals.
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04-03-2003, 02:31 PM
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#659
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prodigal poster
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: gate 27
Posts: 2,710
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I wish I was a little bit taller....I wish I was a baller
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Originally posted by str8outavannuys
What other classics are out there waiting to be sampled?
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I am not sure where the market is headed, but I prefer something more unusual to my ear mixed in to a track.
I have been hearing a lot of interesting tracks built on tropical and african beats and mixed into house. My favorite beat last year was DJ Quik's Addictive beat built on the Indian sample (that someone really should have checked and cleared first).
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04-03-2003, 02:34 PM
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#660
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Too Good For Post Numbers
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 65,535
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I wish I was a little bit taller....I wish I was a baller
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Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
In that sense, sampling and plagiarism has a proud history that predates recorded music.
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So, almost the world's oldest profession, but not quite?
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Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Even if your comrades fought and died while singing that song on the battlements of Paris.
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Actually, your posting brings back memories of Bull Run.
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