Still Hating America.

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Hey, how's that AMT doing you, right about now????

I hacked TurboTax to shut it off. I'm getting a $49,000 refund!

Originally posted by Gattigap
Oh, shit is that cold. Don't get the reference, but the three question marks tell me that it was in. Weed's. face.

Weed, you gonna put up with that?

When Slave goes four question marks the shit is over - you might just as well log out, call it a day and head home.

[SlaveNoMore]

ironweed
I hacked TurboTax to shut it off. I'm getting a $49,000 refund!

Way 2 stick it 2 da man. Pwned!!

[SlaveNoMore]

ironweed
When Slave goes four question marks the shit is over - you might just as well log out, call it a day and head home.

Dam 2 cold! Ice!

Pwned!!

[Spanky]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
Which idiots? The problem is that there are a lot of people saying a lot of things. Some are more histeronic than others.

The majority of climatologists and "environmental" scientists. In 1986 I took a public policy course where the professor was obsessed with Global Warming. We were forced to study the subject in depth. The overwhelming general consensus among climatologists in the late 80s was drastic temperature increases and drastic climate changes were going to occur by the year 2000. My parents have been involved in the environmental movement (and the Sierra Club) for over forty years, and all their colleagues have been warning of impending environmental disasters as long as I have been alive. Some of the signs of impending disaster I have been forced to listen to: Global Cooling, disappearance of amphibians leading to all sorts of environmental calamities, all human males were going sterile, gulf war smoke was going to bring about the end of the world, population explosion, mathematical and statistical certainty that we will have at least four nuclear meltdowns in the US by the year 2000, the Global 2000 report etc. etc. etc.

When I was a kid, I still naively bought this B.S. and forced Less to listen to all these predictions of gloom. It would be one thing if they environmental disaster predictors had been right about just one prediction - but as far as I know not one of these predictions of disaster has ever materialized.

Extradordinary claims require extradordinary evidence.

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by Spanky
The majority of climatologists and "environmental" scientists. In 1986 I took a public policy course where the professor was obsessed with Global Warming. We were forced to study the subject in depth. The overwhelming general consensus among climatologists in the late 80s was drastic temperature increases and drastic climate changes were going to occur by the year 2000. My parents have been involved in the environmental movement (and the Sierra Club) for over forty years, and all their colleagues have been warning of impending environmental disasters as long as I have been alive. Some of the signs of impending disaster I have been forced to listen to: Global Cooling, disappearance of amphibians leading to all sorts of environmental calamities, all human males were going sterile, gulf war smoke was going to bring about the end of the world, population explosion, mathematical and statistical certainty that we will have at least four nuclear meltdowns in the US by the year 2000, the Global 2000 report etc. etc. etc.

When I was a kid, I still naively bought this B.S. and forced Less to listen to all these predictions of gloom. It would be one thing if they environmental disaster predictors had been right about just one prediction - but as far as I know not one of these predictions of disaster has ever materialized.

Extradordinary claims require extradordinary evidence.

Man. Good thing Malthus wasn't around when Spanky was in college.

[Spanky]

Originally posted by Adder
This level of anti-intellectualism actually disqualifies you from claiming to be thoughtful.

To be clear, I'm not saying you have to believe what someone says because of their education and research experience. But if you actively discount what someone says because they have an established academic track record, you are the antithesis of a thoughtful person. Which surprised me from you.

It is not anti-intellectualism, it is what I view as a lack of academic standards in certain disciplines. First of all, at many institutions people can get a degree in public policy or sociology without ever taking an economics course or without ever truly understanding statistics. My ex girl friend got a degree in Public Policy at Berkeley and her program and her dissertation were a joke. She basically had zero math skills, and her statistical analysis was a joke, and I was sure she was gong to get laughed out of the institution after she submitted her dissertation. The underlying statistical analysis in her dissertation was never even scrutinized. She is now a professor. I give a lot of talks at schools, and I am always amazed by the emotional, and ill disciplined rants I get from sociology professors. I don't know what happens in most sociology departments, but it seems the requirement to get tenures is you have to dress like you just left woodstock, be really angry and emotional, and to think that you don't have to support any of your arguments. I was just on a panel discussing reproductive rights, and a sociology professor from an ivy league school was on my side (NARAL for some insane reason thought he would help bolster my sides crediblity), and even though he was arguing for reproductive rights, because of his histrionics and irrational rants, I believe he swithced many people to the pro-life position.

Of course this is a generalization, and there are exceptions to this rule, but generally, in my experience it holds true.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by Spanky
The majority of climatologists and "environmental" scientists. In 1986 I took a public policy course where the professor was obsessed with Global Warming. We were forced to study the subject in depth. The overwhelming general consensus among climatologists in the late 80s was drastic temperature increases and drastic climate changes were going to occur by the year 2000. My parents have been involved in the environmental movement (and the Sierra Club) for over forty years, and all their colleagues have been warning of impending environmental disasters as long as I have been alive. Some of the signs of impending disaster I have been forced to listen to: Global Cooling, disappearance of amphibians leading to all sorts of environmental calamities, all human males were going sterile, gulf war smoke was going to bring about the end of the world, population explosion, mathematical and statistical certainty that we will have at least four nuclear meltdowns in the US by the year 2000, the Global 2000 report etc. etc. etc.

When I was a kid, I still naively bought this B.S. and forced Less to listen to all these predictions of gloom. It would be one thing if they environmental disaster predictors had been right about just one prediction - but as far as I know not one of these predictions of disaster has ever materialized.

Extradordinary claims require extradordinary evidence.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070227...s_070227120242

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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070227...s_070227120242

That's not extraditionary. A more plausible explanation than "pollution" is that all Frogs want to be female so that they can have a hope of becoming stripper frogs and dating Spanky.

Especially the frogs from Eastern Europe.

[Spanky]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070227...s_070227120242

I first heard about this in the nineties and people at the Sierra Club were extrapolating all sorts of calamities that would be caused by whatever was happeing. Men were soon going to go sterile, the insect population was to run amuck, etc. etc. Did I miss the huge catastrophe?

We have been trying to stop Doolittle from pushing through a Dam and other water project in California that will be very bad for the California's ecosystem (Pombo was also behing the project but now he is not a factor). Everytime there is a hearing, our sides credibility always gets destroyed because some idiot environmentalist starts going on about how these things are going to cause terrible biblical disasters.

There is some weird psychosis in the environmental community that the world is about to go through some huge calamity because of what homo sapiens are doing. All they do is convince middle of the road people, that all envronmental proposals are overeactions to minor problems. If the world does not signicantly warm up in the next twenty years, the entire environmental movement is going to get a huge black eye, and consequently it will be extremely difficult to get even a reasonable environmental regulation passed.

If past experience is anything to go on, there won't be any significant statistical rise in tempature, and in fact I won't be surprised if the world gets cooler.

[SlaveNoMore]

Note that these are actually Bedouin Arab Israelis - and not actually "Palestinians"

"A gang of serial rapists has been prowling the North, raping Jewish women as revenge for IDF actions in the West Bank, police revealed Tuesday after arresting six suspects.

We are raping Jews [(Slave - read, teenage girls, as young as 13) because of what the IDF is doing to the Palestinians in the territories," one of the six suspects told investigators from the Northern District Central Investigative Unit (CIU) during questioning. During their questioning and their brief appearance at the Nazareth Magistrate's Court Tuesday, none of the four main suspects indicated that they felt remorse for their actions.

Police said they were aware of four attacks carried out by the gang, but they believed there were probably other incidents that had gone unreported by the victims.

In all four cases, police said, the rapists' modus operandi were strikingly similar - all of the attacks were directed against young women who were waiting at bus stops or designated hitchhiking points in the western Galilee and the Haifa area...."

link

[Secret_Agent_Man]

Originally posted by Spanky
You posted actual indisputable evidence that sea levels are concisely and permanently rising? I don't recall that. The ocean has not gotten any closer to my parents beach house in the last forty years . . .

Well, there you go have it -- the Spanky's Daddy's House rebuttal to the global warming argument!

How dare you yell at other folks for allegedly posting crapola when you do this?

Wow. Its not the bullshit, its the hypocrisy.

S_A_M

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
Well, there you go have it -- the Spanky's Daddy's House rebuttal to the global warming argument!

How dare you yell at other folks for allegedly posting crapola when you do this?

Wow. Its not the bullshit, its the hypocrisy.

S_A_M

And the house doesn't even have a dishwasher.

[Adder]

Originally posted by Spanky
It is not anti-intellectualism, it is what I view as a lack of academic standards in certain disciplines.

Whatever. At every university in American you need to be published in peer reviewed journals to be tenured. The peer review process itself is far more rigorous than your ad hoc standards of credibility.

[Adder]

Originally posted by Spanky

If past experience is anything to go on, there won't be any significant statistical rise in tempature, and in fact I won't be surprised if the world gets cooler.

You have anything to back that up other than your general disregard of those who actually study things?