Still Hating America.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
It makes plenty of sense. This fucking moron is the ostensible leader of your party - you know, the one that is pushing for an Equal Rights Amendment over here.

She then immediately goes over to Syria and encourages the thuggish, misogynist belief of muslims that women are inferior by putting that scarf on her ugly head and that stupid black dress on.
And not merely in a mosque (as some of you have tried to compare this to either (i) a display of "respect" or (ii) going to a catholic church - even though in 35 years I've never been in a catholic church that required a woman to cover her head), but on the public streets of Damascus.

Apparently, I'm not the only one who sees it this way:



PS - How absolutely great is it that she felt the need to visit the mosque that features the final resting place of the dismembered head of John the Baptist.

I assume your letter of protest to Laura Bush is in the mail.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

• Western Europe, that is. Europe is better at producing (many) public goods through the public sector. Europe has more homogeneous nations with more urbanization, higher levels of social cohesion, and a more even distribution of ability. America is better at resource mobility, private sector innovation and catering to elites.
  
  Because European government works better, Europeans demand more of it and get more of it. American liberals look at Europe and see (sometimes) better results per dollar spent. They then conclude that America should be more like Europe, whereas in reality America would end up spending more to get more bad American government. They also conclude that defenders of the American market-based order simply ignore the evidence before their eyes, evidence which supposedly shows the superiority of social democracy.
  
  Market-oriented types look at Europe and think it is on the verge of collapse, when it isn't. They can't imagine that it doesn't, in every way, have American-style government failure.
  
  Europe benefits more from America being American than America does from Europe being European. Ideas -- America's strong point -- are more likely to be international public goods than good governance -- Europe's strong point.
  
  Lovers of Europe should be especially concerned to see America remain so inegalitarian. But in reality American social democrats care mostly about their own country. They think that enough changes would make America enough like Europe; I do not understand their underlying model of the differences between America and Europe, and thus I think they are badly wrong. Policy is not an exogenous or all-determining variable.

Tyler Cowen.

[SlaveNoMore]

Tyrone Slothrop
I assume your letter of protest to Laura Bush is in the mail.

I assume that by making a clownish statement like this, rather than addressing my point, you, in fact, agree with me on Pelosi.

[SlaveNoMore]

Tyrone Slothrop

• Western Europe, that is. Europe is better at producing (many) public goods through the public sector. Europe has more homogeneous nations with more urbanization, higher levels of social cohesion, and a more even distribution of ability. America is better at resource mobility, private sector innovation and catering to elites.
  
  Because European government works better, Europeans demand more of it and get more of it. American liberals look at Europe and see (sometimes) better results per dollar spent. They then conclude that America should be more like Europe, whereas in reality America would end up spending more to get more bad American government. They also conclude that defenders of the American market-based order simply ignore the evidence before their eyes, evidence which supposedly shows the superiority of social democracy.
  
  Market-oriented types look at Europe and think it is on the verge of collapse, when it isn't. They can't imagine that it doesn't, in every way, have American-style government failure.
  
  Europe benefits more from America being American than America does from Europe being European. Ideas -- America's strong point -- are more likely to be international public goods than good governance -- Europe's strong point.
  
  Lovers of Europe should be especially concerned to see America remain so inegalitarian. But in reality American social democrats care mostly about their own country. They think that enough changes would make America enough like Europe; I do not understand their underlying model of the differences between America and Europe, and thus I think they are badly wrong. Policy is not an exogenous or all-determining variable.

Tyler Cowen.

Some of us look at Europe, and see its suburbs being burned down on nightly basis by disaffected, rioting "youths"

These "better working" European goverments are doing a helluva job with that one.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
I assume that by making a clownish statement like this, rather than addressing my point, you, in fact, agree with me on Pelosi.

I don't believe it at all. I wear a yamulkah when I visit a synogogue. Women don't. I think I am respecting the beliefs of my hosts, not subjugating women.

You claim to be upset with Pelosi's anti-feminist conduct, not with the purported hypocrisy. So presumably you would be equally offended to see Laura Bush or Condi Rice in a hijab as well.

Except we know that that's a crock.

[SlaveNoMore]

Tyrone Slothrop
I don't believe it at all. I wear a yamulkah when I visit a synogogue. Women don't. I think I am respecting the beliefs of my hosts, not subjugating women.

You claim to be upset with Pelosi's anti-feminist conduct, not with the purported hypocrisy. So presumably you would be equally offended to see Laura Bush or Condi Rice in a hijab as well.

Except we know that that's a crock.

One - I am equally offended to see any woman put that odious rag on her head - so yes, I am.

See Fallaci's reaction to Khomehni - that is what you do.

Two - If you aren't jewish and you are putting a yarmulkah on your head, then you are a putz. I don't expect jews to bless the cross or kneel in church either.

[Diane_Keaton]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I have no earthly idea what you're talking about.

Pelosi brought to Syria 5 or so other Rep's including Keith Ellison, first Muslim member of Congress who (among other things) got outed for writing pro-Farrakhan and other crap under another name.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Diane_Keaton
Pelosi brought to Syria 5 or so other Rep's including Keith Ellison, first Muslim member of Congress who (among other things) got outed for writing pro-Farrakhan and other crap under another name.

Diane I love your posts, but both you and slave could use some time away from lgf. it is way too pessimistic. that there is a "first muslim" in congress is a positive thing.

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
One - I am equally offended to see any woman put that odious rag on her head - so yes, I am.

See Fallaci's reaction to Khomehni - that is what you do.

Two - If you aren't jewish and you are putting a yarmulkah on your head, then you are a putz. I don't expect jews to bless the cross or kneel in church either.

This strikes me as an unusual subject for outrage, but whatever. I guess in a few weeks we'll hear about the traitorous decision by Harry Reid to wear a RED tie, when everyone knows that this is the GOP color, and that motherfucker should only wear blue.

But while we're on the subject, what about W's decision to hold hands with Saudi princes?

A nod to Saudi custom, indicating that the person with whom you are conversing is important to you - or unforgivable subjugation to the love that dare not speak its name?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Diane_Keaton
Pelosi brought to Syria 5 or so other Rep's including Keith Ellison, first Muslim member of Congress who (among other things) got outed for writing pro-Farrakhan and other crap under another name.

From what I read in his Wikipedia entry, calling him an anti-Semite is at least as bad as the things he said.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
One - I am equally offended to see any woman put that odious rag on her head - so yes, I am.

And yet the outrage only comes when it's Pelosi. I see.

Two - If you aren't jewish and you are putting a yarmulkah on your head, then you are a putz. I don't expect jews to bless the cross or kneel in church either.

I think there's a difference. When I put on a yamulkah, I'm not expressing any Jewish faith. It's a sign of respect.

[Adder]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
This is so inane and ridiculous and self-pitying and a million other synonyms that it almost made me vomit.

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[Adder]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Either you believe in teh market or you believe in paternalism. Apparently a lot of America would be better off if they did not have access to credit and other lent money.

Is that a little too black and white? I mean, isn't it possible that there are aspects of the market that most people just don't understand? And isn't it possible that that asymmetrical understanding of the market can be exploited by the party that understands it? Perhaps the government has a role to play to level out those asymmetries.

[Adder]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I have no earthly idea what you're talking about.

And yet she still goes out in public.

[Adder]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Some of us look at Europe, and see its suburbs being burned down on nightly basis by disaffected, rioting "youths"

These same of us live in a fantasy land that sees these extraordinary events in European suburbs as the rule, and somehow different than what happens in American cities (cue insane Hank drivel).