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04-10-2007, 02:40 PM
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I am beyond a rank!
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January 20, 2009. January 20, 2009. January 20, 2009.
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
I don't support bush on this topic, but a bill described as:- The bill Bush opposes, sponsored by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (news, bio, voting record), D-Nev., would lift the president's 2001 ban on federal funding for any new embryonic stem cell studies.
was brought up solely for political benefit. Harry Reid sponsoring a bill to "lift" something the President put in place is a move calculated to make you angry, not a move intended to get a ban lifted.
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Really? Appropriations are dedicated to the executive branch now?
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04-10-2007, 02:44 PM
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January 20, 2009. January 20, 2009. January 20, 2009.
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Originally posted by Diane_Keaton
Better yet, why hasn't someone in the Dem party proposed a candidate strong enough on foreign policy so we wouldn't have to deal with infringements like these and others?
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So you'll be voting for Hillary then?
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04-10-2007, 02:51 PM
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Proud Holder-Post 200,000
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January 20, 2009. January 20, 2009. January 20, 2009.
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Originally posted by Adder
Really? Appropriations are dedicated to the executive branch now?
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huh? I know I'll regret this, but could you explain what you mean? I know you mean something snide, and I know it's likely confused and misguided, but would you please elaborate?
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04-10-2007, 03:06 PM
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World Ruler
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Friday Afternoon
Is that when Gonzalez resigns?
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04-10-2007, 03:08 PM
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Moderator
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Friday Afternoon
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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Is that when Gonzalez resigns?
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Although I thought it would happen two fridays ago, I think he has to do the hearing now, before he resigns. I suspect, however, if it goes badly he's out by Friday next week.
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04-10-2007, 03:09 PM
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Moderasaurus Rex
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Apropos of the folks who got upset about the feminist implications of Speaker Pelosi (and the First Lady, etc.) wearing a veil, what to make of fact that women in Iraq now feel much more compelled to wear a veil than they did under Hussein? It's hard to escape the idea that we've paved the way for a giant leap backwards for Iraqi women (qua women).
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04-10-2007, 03:15 PM
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Consigliere
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January 20, 2009. January 20, 2009. January 20, 2009.
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taxwonk
Because he IS AN ASSHOLE!!!!
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Democrats: Raising the level of political discourse since 2000.
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04-10-2007, 03:16 PM
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Proud Holder-Post 200,000
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Apropos of the folks who got upset about the feminist implications of Speaker Pelosi (and the First Lady, etc.) wearing a veil, what to make of fact that women in Iraq now feel much more compelled to wear a veil than they did under Hussein? It's hard to escape the idea that we've paved the way for a giant leap backwards for Iraqi women (qua women).
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do you mean backwards for Shia women too? they couldn't even worship under Hussein.
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04-10-2007, 03:23 PM
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I am beyond a rank!
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January 20, 2009. January 20, 2009. January 20, 2009.
Quote:
Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
huh? I know I'll regret this, but could you explain what you mean? I know you mean something snide, and I know it's likely confused and misguided, but would you please elaborate?
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You said:
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"Harry Reid sponsoring a bill to "lift" something the President put in place is a move calculated to make you angry, not a move intended to get a ban lifted.
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In this instance, what was to be "lifted" was a presidential ban on how federal moneys are to be spent. Something you suggest was futile and merely a political show.
Apparently, your view is that Bush gets to decide how federal funds are spent, regardless of congressional appropriations.
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04-10-2007, 03:25 PM
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Proud Holder-Post 200,000
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January 20, 2009. January 20, 2009. January 20, 2009.
Quote:
Originally posted by Adder
In this instance, what was to be "lifted" was a presidential ban on how federal moneys are to be spent. Something you suggest was futile and merely a political show.
Apparently, your view is that Bush gets to decide how federal funds are spent, regardless of congressional appropriations.
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how can he ban something if he can't ban it? who signs those appropriation bils?
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04-10-2007, 03:44 PM
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I am beyond a rank!
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January 20, 2009. January 20, 2009. January 20, 2009.
Quote:
Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
how can he ban something if he can't ban it? who signs those appropriation bils?
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If his "ban" was merely a matter of a veto, then there would be no reason for you to be skeptical of Reid's attempt to overturn the ban through legislation (veto override as a possibility and all).
I don't care enough to find out, but I was assuming here we were talking about a ban that was by executive order, which would make you right to be skeptical about the Reid bill, but could raise constitutional question about executive impoundment of congressional appropriations.
Eta: If were not making the same assumption, then apparently your point about Reid was even more meaningless than I took it to be.
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04-10-2007, 03:55 PM
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Moderasaurus Rex
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Quote:
Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
do you mean backwards for Shia women too? they couldn't even worship under Hussein.
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That's an overstatement, but your point is taken, which is why I added the "qua women" (as opposed to "qua Shi'a," etc.).
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04-10-2007, 04:20 PM
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Wild Rumpus Facilitator
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January 20, 2009. January 20, 2009. January 20, 2009.
Quote:
Originally posted by Diane_Keaton
Better yet, why hasn't someone in the Dem party proposed a candidate strong enough on foreign policy so we wouldn't have to deal with infringements like these and others?
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I knew if I resisted the impulse to put you on ignore, sooner or later you'd say something I agree with.
From your mouth to God's ear.
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04-10-2007, 04:23 PM
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Wild Rumpus Facilitator
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January 20, 2009. January 20, 2009. January 20, 2009.
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Democrats: Raising the level of political discourse since 2000.
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That wasn't political discourse. That was just me calling an asshole an asshole.
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04-10-2007, 04:30 PM
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Random Syndicate (admin)
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January 20, 2009. January 20, 2009. January 20, 2009.
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Originally posted by taxwonk
That wasn't political discourse. That was just me calling an asshole an asshole.
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I disagree. As I said before, he's a motherfucker.
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