Offering constructive criticism to the social cripples in our midst since early 2005.

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
The guy who walks onto a Jerusalem bus and sits next to a mom and her kids before blowing himself up is doing it to kill, not to kill himself. His dying isn't the goal, it's just worth it to him.

But he commits suicide in the process. The suicide aspect is the one characteristic of the bombing that makes it different from other bombings. It makes sense for the defining characteristic of an act to actually define that act.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by ironweed
You would do well to remember you are talking to the individual who invented jackass sloganeering on lawyer-type internet chatting boards.

lactation lover was originally ghost of vince foster and I changed the name, explaining that post from that poster.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
I have stated my position.

I'm sorry, I must have missed that post.

How many people do you believe Bill and Hillary murdered?

How many people do you believe they ordered killed?



Let's see if you can answer with the "well, see, nothing is really impossible, and no one's ever accused me of murder and since they've been accused a lot of times, well, then" bullshit. My bet is you can't.

Pathetic. You hate your country, and you don't even have the balls to take a position on something so basic.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
2. A real good friend of mind committed suicide. He was in his parents garage with his car on, a big glass of scotch and sinatra playing.

The guy who walks onto a Jerusalem bus and sits next to a mom and her kids before blowing himself up is doing it to kill, not to kill himself. His dying isn't the goal, it's just worth it to him.

And my best friend blew his brains out in a shooting gallery. So what? No one is questioning that suicide bombers are scum, murderers, etc. But calling them "homicide bombers" is meaningless because it fails to distinguish them from anyone else who kills people with bombs.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
Penske's problem is that he hates America so much -- I mean, truly and deeply despises America -- that he is willing to compare Bill Clinton to Stalin and Hillary Clinton to Hitler despite their enormous popularity. He loves the GOP so dearly, but hates the country and cannot forgive the country for twice electing Clinton.

It's sad, really. I love this country, and would never post a picture of Bush or his wife in a Nazi uniform. It's really and truly shameful.

You're close, I hate how they defecated on the office of the Presidency. Other than that you are wrong, and I am surprised you would accuse me of hatred, as in my personal life the only hatred I really ever witness is the left's hatred of Bush. It's on the tip of their tongues, on their screensavers, on the bumperstickers of their Volkswagon Vanagons. What is really shameful to me is when I see you guys teach your children that it's okay to hate people for their political beliefs. At the same time the liberal hypocrates talk their PC/anti-bias/tolerance message out of the other side of their mouth. Fascinating stuff. I guess its the compromise you have to reach when Byrd is the conscience of your party.

Can you drink a glass of water and talk out of both sides at the same time?

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
I had a fucking point there. I'm sick of the fucking gimickry the Right uses in place of actual debate. Fuckheads like Anne Coulter make idiot jokes in response to real questions. Bill Kristol thinks manifest Destiny applied to foreign soil is a no-brainer solution to every problem. And all this crap - all these shit ideas - are sold to us wrapped in gimicky shit. Freedom Fries, Homicide Bombers, "The Cost of Freedom", "Operation Righteous Liberation" (or whatever they called Iraq war), "No Child Left Behind." This semantic fuckery is annoying. It clouds real consideration of issues and devolves debate into nonsense sloganeering. "My culture of life beats your moral relativism!" What does shit like that mean? Its pap, but its dangerous pap. We're stupid enoug; we don't need a second language of stupid slogans to degarde ourselves further.

You've got to be kidding me, the left has run a campaign of slander for the last 5 years based on the premise that Bush is a dummy. All the things you cited are just the response.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
The point is that it makes no sense -- someone who blows himself up is a homicide bomber, but someone who just blows up other people is not?

they are both killers. It is a disservice to the memories of the victims to pretend its a suicide. It is not. It is homicide. Whether you stick in the bomber part or not is irrelevant.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
2. A real good friend of mind committed suicide. He was in his parents garage with his car on, a big glass of scotch and sinatra playing.

The guy who walks onto a Jerusalem bus and sits next to a mom and her kids before blowing himself up is doing it to kill, not to kill himself. His dying isn't the goal, it's just worth it to him.

A friend of mine jumped in front of a train. He committed suicide. The guy blowing himself up on the bus - he's committing suicide also. But he's also bombing something. Hence, suicide bombing.

If you like homicide bombing, you'll like these as well:

Active exercise
Metabolic breathing
Moving ambulation
Oral cunnilingus
Oral fellatio
Anal defecation

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
A friend of mine jumped in front of a train. He committed suicide. The guy blowing himself up on the bus - he's committing suicide also. But he's also bombing something. Hence, suicide bombing.

If you like homicide bombing, you'll like these as well:

Active exercise
Metabolic breathing
Moving ambulation
Oral cunnilingus
Oral fellatio
Anal defecation

I would think the intelligent thing to do would be to make them all just 'bombing' rather than substituting 'homicide' for 'suicide.' Though, having 'suicide' on there does mean you can skip this portion of the discussion:

A: "So did they catch the person who bombed that bus?"
B: "No, s/he blew him/herself up when the bomb went off."
A: "Wow, how ironic. What a fuckup!"
B: "No, s/he blew him/herself up on purpose -- hid the bomb on his/her body."
A: "Man, those towelheads are craaaaay-zeeee."

Originally posted by Penske_Account
What is really shameful to me is when I see you guys teach your children that it's okay to hate people for their political beliefs.

LOL.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
But he commits suicide in the process. The suicide aspect is the one characteristic of the bombing that makes it different from other bombings. It makes sense for the defining characteristic of an act to actually define that act.

Why? the suicide is not integral to the act. If the bomb went off and the mother and child died but the bomber lived by virtue of some fluke, it would still be what it is cold blooded murder. As Hank noted, the death of the killer is incidental.

[Not Bob]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
You've got to be kidding me, the left has run a campaign of slander for the last 5 years based on the premise that Bush is a dummy. All the things you cited are just the response.

Right. Ann Coulter appeared on the scene only after W won the Republican nomination in 2000. Silly sebby to think otherwise.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
I'm sorry, I must have missed that post.

How many people do you believe Bill and Hillary murdered?

How many people do you believe they ordered killed?



Let's see if you can answer with the "well, see, nothing is really impossible, and no one's ever accused me of murder and since they've been accused a lot of times, well, then" bullshit. My bet is you can't.

Pathetic. You hate your country, and you don't even have the balls to take a position on something so basic.

What's the part that is so basic. I don't necessarily believe that they killed anyone, but I think that there is some compelling evidence that they could have been involved in some non-accidental deaths. Until all the evidence that is out there come to light they are, in my mind, just persons of interest. Like Joran Vandersloot and those Arubian brothers.

[Not Bob]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
Why? the suicide is not integral to the act. If the bomb went off and the mother and child died but the bomber lived by virtue of some fluke, it would still be what it is cold blooded murder. As Hank noted, the death of the killer is incidental.

Right. And that's why we didn't have a different name for Japanese pilots who flew their explosive-laden planes into US ships during World War II. My father just talked about "the Japanese air force bombing attacks" he saw off Iwo Jima in 1945.

It is easier to prevent an attacker who is trying to live to fight another day. Not as easy to prevent one who is the bomb delivery system and the detonating device.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
And my best friend blew his brains out in a shooting gallery. So what? No one is questioning that suicide bombers are scum, murderers, etc. But calling them "homicide bombers" is meaningless because it fails to distinguish them from anyone else who kills people with bombs.

why do you feel the need to distinguish, other than that they have brainwashed you to be sympathetic to their cause and go along with their PC characterization?