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Old 07-05-2005, 06:33 PM   #2476
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Don't say I never gave you anything (spree: Google maps hack. Someone's taken the time to overlay crime reports over Google maps of the Chicago. There appear to be several different ways to filter the results, too - by crime, police beat, zip code, and so on.)
There are some really awesome Google Maps hacks, including ones that do all the real estate (sale and rental) listings on Craigslist. Google "craigslist real estate google maps" for that one, and screw around with googles for "google maps" to find more.
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I would think the intelligent thing to do would be to make them all just 'bombing' rather than substituting 'homicide' for 'suicide.' Though, having 'suicide' on there does mean you can skip this portion of the discussion:

A: "So did they catch the person who bombed that bus?"
B: "No, s/he blew him/herself up when the bomb went off."
A: "Wow, how ironic. What a fuckup!"
B: "No, s/he blew him/herself up on purpose -- hid the bomb on his/her body."
A: "Man, those towelheads are craaaaay-zeeee."
I could handle that compromise. Seems fair.
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Old 07-05-2005, 06:34 PM   #2478
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Why? the suicide is not integral to the act. If the bomb went off and the mother and child died but the bomber lived by virtue of some fluke, it would still be what it is cold blooded murder. As Hank noted, the death of the killer is incidental.
My understanding is that they're considered martyrs by the assholes that recruit them to blow up busses and cafes and police stations. That they're expecting to die for the cause makes them more difficult to stop than the more self-preservation oriented.
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Old 07-05-2005, 06:35 PM   #2479
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A friend of mine jumped in front of a train. He committed suicide. The guy blowing himself up on the bus - he's committing suicide also. But he's also bombing something. Hence, suicide bombing.

If you like homicide bombing, you'll like these as well:

Active exercise
Metabolic breathing
Moving ambulation
Oral cunnilingus
Oral fellatio
Anal defecation
Oh. but my friend, say he has a lab and instead of sucking CO2 he decided to build a bomb and blow himself up, in a field far away from everyone. What's he?
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Old 07-05-2005, 06:37 PM   #2480
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as in my personal life the only hatred I really ever witness is the left's hatred of Bush.

That's because of where you live. Doubly sad, and doubly pathetic -- you hate not only your country, but your corner of it.

How else can one describe anyone who truly believes that the person Americans twice elected President, and who was more popular at the end of his presidency than even Reagan, can be compared to Stalin? Or is a murderer?
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Old 07-05-2005, 06:39 PM   #2481
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they are both killers. It is a disservice to the memories of the victims to pretend its a suicide. It is not. It is homicide. Whether you stick in the bomber part or not is irrelevant.

So all those Israeli political and military leaders, who have used the term "suicide bombers" for decades, really hate the victims they claim to mourn? Interesting.

Insane, but interesting.
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Old 07-05-2005, 06:41 PM   #2482
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Why? the suicide is not integral to the act. If the bomb went off and the mother and child died but the bomber lived by virtue of some fluke, it would still be what it is cold blooded murder. As Hank noted, the death of the killer is incidental.
If the bomb goes off and the bomber dies but no one else does, as often happens (yay!), then what is it?
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Old 07-05-2005, 06:42 PM   #2483
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LOL.
Laugh while you can, monkey boy. Seriously, I send my kids to the most liberal schools I can find and what do I find there:

They preach, constantly, about anti-bias, they have an anti-bias curriculum (I can't figure out what the bias curriculum is-maybe Byrd knows, Sidd?). Tolerance for all. Except, they hate Bush. I hear it every day. "I hate bush", "wish he was dead" (hi Wonk!) (something, btw, you don't hear me say about the Clintons, either of them). their bumper stickers say it. So even if the kids don't hear the hateful rhetoric, once they get past 1st grade they can read. And yet these people are anti-biased and tolerant. Explain it to me.

I had a parent, ultra liberal, educated, had a doctorate, come to my house for a kid's birthday and say, "I could never socialize with a republican, anyone who votes for Bush is an ignorant scumbag." Nods all around from the other parents.

I would never say that about a democrat or a liberal or a Clinton voter. Tell me again about how I am hateful and the liberals are tolerant.
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Old 07-05-2005, 06:43 PM   #2484
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What's the part that is so basic. I don't necessarily believe that they killed anyone, but I think that there is some compelling evidence that they could have been involved in some non-accidental deaths. Until all the evidence that is out there come to light they are, in my mind, just persons of interest. Like Joran Vandersloot and those Arubian brothers.

Like I said, it's not a schtick. "There's some compelling evidence." Despite the closing of the most expensive criminal investigation in history without any homicide charge, you can't believe that the Clintons did not personally murder anyone, and did not order anyone murdered.

You believe they are murderers. You're just too big a pussy to come out and say it.
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Old 07-05-2005, 06:45 PM   #2485
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Right. And that's why we didn't have a different name for Japanese pilots who flew their explosive-laden planes into US ships during World War II. My father just talked about "the Japanese air force bombing attacks" he saw off Iwo Jima in 1945.

It is easier to prevent an attacker who is trying to live to fight another day. Not as easy to prevent one who is the bomb delivery system and the detonating device.

You stupid left-wing Axis apologist. The so-called "kamikaze pilots" should be called "bomber pilots." Anyone who draws a distincting between them and other Japanese who bombed Americans must really just Love the Terrorists. Don't you remember 9/11?
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So all those Israeli political and military leaders, who have used the term "suicide bombers" for decades, really hate the victims they claim to mourn? Interesting.

Insane, but interesting.
To be fair, the Israelis had at their disposal none of the reasoned minds of Hannity, nor Coulter, nor Limbaugh to cleanse all use of this disgraceful term in favor of the obvious "homicide bomber," so perhaps their use of the disdainful term is more an unfortunate historical accident than outright malice to the dead.
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Old 07-05-2005, 06:48 PM   #2487
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why do you feel the need to distinguish, other than that they have brainwashed you to be sympathetic to their cause and go along with their PC characterization?


Because I am intelligent enough to understand that, from a military and security perspective, there is a difference between fighting someone to whom the threat of death is a deterrent and fighting someone who welcomes death.


I would think that would be obvious. Then again, so much that is obvious blows past you, because you can't see past the sheen of blood that coats your eyes.
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That's because of where you live. Doubly sad, and doubly pathetic -- you hate not only your country, but your corner of it.

How else can one describe anyone who truly believes that the person Americans twice elected President, and who was more popular at the end of his presidency than even Reagan, can be compared to Stalin? Or is a murderer?
Either liberals are open minded or they are not. It has no bearing on where one lives. The closed minded hateful liberals I encounter here are no different than the ones where you live or anywhere you people congregate. Look at Rachael Corrie, she went international with her hatred. Same strain.



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How else can one describe anyone who truly believes that the person Americans twice elected President, and who was more popular at the end of his presidency than even Reagan, can be compared to Stalin? Or is a murderer?

Why? Lots of corrupt officials have pulled the wool over the sheeples eyes. Look at the Daleys, they have been doing for 50 years. And I would bet that that family has blood on their hands. Literally.
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So all those Israeli political and military leaders, who have used the term "suicide bombers" for decades, really hate the victims they claim to mourn? Interesting.

Insane, but interesting.
cite please.
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If the bomb goes off and the bomber dies but no one else does, as often happens (yay!), then what is it?
Attempted murder.
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