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Old 06-28-2005, 01:06 PM   #1561
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And I never liked Bush1.0 much and in fact did not vote for him in 92
You helped elect Clinton? O, the irony.
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Old 06-28-2005, 01:10 PM   #1562
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You helped elect Clinton? O, the irony.
Twice.( eta: actually 4 times, my wife at the time gave me her proxy for the presidential vote)

FWIW, the first campaign work I ever did was for this guy (although I think this picture was double exposed-either that or I am seeing double, no more X for breakfast):




Don't let Lactation Lover see this pic!
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Old 06-28-2005, 02:00 PM   #1564
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Old 06-28-2005, 02:02 PM   #1565
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Old 06-28-2005, 02:15 PM   #1566
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2. Remind me, why did we have to enter the war in Europe? Regardless of whether Germany declared war against us, we could have focused on Japan and let Hitler have Europe. It would have been a while before he could reach us with any affect and we would have had the bomb by then.
The German navy was attacking us. And we certainly weren't sure during the war that we would get the bomb first. Hence the Manhattan Project.
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Old 06-28-2005, 02:29 PM   #1567
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Roosevelt told the country that he was doing everything to keep America out of the war to "protect our neutrality". At the same time he had US Naval ships escorting both US and British merchant ships that were taking war supplies to Britain. He did everything he could to provoke a confrontation in the Atlantic. He lied when he ran for office saying he would do everything to keep us out of the war because he was trying to come up with a way to get us in. His lies cost countless of American lives. However, I am glad he lied and I am glad he did what he did. Although I don't think Bush lied, I am glad he took us to war against Iraq.
I love it when conservatives start fulminating about Roosevelt. You get these ridiculous statements like, "he did everything he could to provoke a confrontation in the Atlantic." This about a time when U-Boats were sinking ships within sight of Miami (for example).

It's 1940. You're Roosevelt. What do you do to stay neutral? Stop trading with England and Canada?

"His lies cost countless of American lives." Um, which lives were those?
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Old 06-28-2005, 02:30 PM   #1568
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I know that Saddam ... kept obstructing the inspectors.
Until he let them in, anyway. BTW, when they looked where we told them to, what did they find?

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Old 06-28-2005, 02:32 PM   #1569
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I love it when conservatives start fulminating about Roosevelt. You get these ridiculous statements like, "he did everything he could to provoke a confrontation in the Atlantic." This about a time when U-Boats were sinking ships within sight of Miami (for example).

It's 1940. You're Roosevelt. What do you do to stay neutral? Stop trading with England and Canada?

"His lies cost countless of American lives." Um, which lives were those?
I can't wait until the year 2065, when Ty's grandson is posting on these boards and saying: "It's 2003. Your Bush. The US has just been viciously attacked. What do you do?"
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Old 06-28-2005, 02:36 PM   #1570
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I can't wait until the year 2065, when Ty's grandson is posting on these boards and saying: "It's 2003. Your Bush. The US has just been viciously attacked. What do you do?"
Iraq attacked us? And are you accusing Ty of wanting to prepare indictments for and offer therapy to bin Laden?
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Old 06-28-2005, 02:38 PM   #1571
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To Sidd and Ty: I wasn't ignoring your posts where you chided me on the murder rate. I just got sick of the bait and switch you both were pulling.
I wasn't baiting and switching anything. You speculated about the number of Iraqis who have died, so I pointed to that Lancet study. 'S'all.
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Old 06-28-2005, 02:51 PM   #1572
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Extending that rationale in light of Islam's goal of either conversion or death to the infidels we may as well send bin laden the keys to the White House and Capital now.
Actually, it turns out he's not going to be a problem anymore:

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Old 06-28-2005, 02:54 PM   #1573
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I can't wait until the year 2065, when Ty's grandson is posting on these boards and saying: "It's 2003. Your Bush. The US has just been viciously attacked. What do you do?"
And your grandson will say, "Make up evidence tying bin Laden to Iraq so we can invade!"
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He should be indicted for the (not so) Great Society. A treasonous effort to convert us to communism.
This is just an assjack statement. The original Great Society programs were both far more limited than they are now and well-intentioned. If you want to talk treason, go buy and read The Death of a Thousand Cuts, Michael Graetz's book on estate tax repeal.


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But isn't that the same thing as having Congress pass apology resolutions? And weren't the libs up in arms about that last week?
Not this lib. I think apology resolutions are stupid and irrelevant. Besides, you know full well my motto: never explain, never apologize.
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Old 06-28-2005, 03:10 PM   #1575
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I love it when conservatives start fulminating about Roosevelt. You get these ridiculous statements like, "he did everything he could to provoke a confrontation in the Atlantic." This about a time when U-Boats were sinking ships within sight of Miami (for example).

It's 1940. You're Roosevelt. What do you do to stay neutral? Stop trading with England and Canada?
Maybe. He made the promise knowing what the obvious risks were. It certainly would have saved American lives.
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