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Old 07-01-2005, 10:46 AM   #1921
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The bet with Heinlein has been pretty much debunked.

The Church took German publishers to court over the report that Scientology was a money making scheme. Rumors persist, though, that L. Ron Hubbard said several times that the best way to make a million dollars was to start a religion.

There's a huge anti-scientology movement on the web. If half of the stories are true, it's a really scary religion. I looked into it a bit when my friend was trying to get out of her marraige. There are stories of the Church going after people who left it and talked about it. They sue people all the time for revealing its material and texts. Basically, to move on to the next level of enlightenment, you have to pay to take their special courses.

Operation Clam Bake is the most comprehensive anti-scientology site out there. It's sort of fascinating to read about.
I blame you for my inability to think today... I stayed up until 1:30 reading that site last night.

I also blame you for destroying my last shred of hope that humans are not imbeciles at their cores.

I now have officially no hope at all for mankind.
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Old 07-01-2005, 11:25 AM   #1922
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O'CONNOR IS GONE!! GOOD RIDDANCE! BRING IT ON W!!!!


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Old 07-01-2005, 11:36 AM   #1923
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Old 07-01-2005, 11:41 AM   #1924
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O'CONNOR IS GONE!! GOOD RIDDANCE! BRING IT ON W!!!!


WOOOOO HOOOOOOO!

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Wow -- talk about a bait-and-switch.
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Old 07-01-2005, 11:47 AM   #1925
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I like her as a person and hope we can still be friends. Good bye Roe.
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Old 07-01-2005, 11:52 AM   #1926
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Wow -- talk about a bait-and-switch.
Yeah, no kidding. The WH has to be thinking "oh fuck" because now there will be a huge battle, much more than with Rehnquist, and it will be much harder to push through a right-winger, since you're not swapping one for the other. And all the names talked about were men, and that probably goes out the door now.

Feel sorry for the guy described in the Post yesterday who runs one of the orgs that will be lobbying on the new justice. He was talking yesterday about making vacation plans and such, since rehnquist didn't resign as expected. Welcome to 24/7 work for the next three months.
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Old 07-01-2005, 11:56 AM   #1927
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I like her as a person and hope we can still be friends. Good bye Roe.
I think the proper term is bon voyage!
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Old 07-01-2005, 11:59 AM   #1928
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Yeah, no kidding. The WH has to be thinking "oh fuck" because now there will be a huge battle, much more than with Rehnquist, and it will be much harder to push through a right-winger, since you're not swapping one for the other. And all the names talked about were men, and that probably goes out the door now.

Feel sorry for the guy described in the Post yesterday who runs one of the orgs that will be lobbying on the new justice. He was talking yesterday about making vacation plans and such, since rehnquist didn't resign as expected. Welcome to 24/7 work for the next three months.
I think you are nuts, no offence. I would be shocked if they didn't have plans in place for both contingencies. Her impending retirement has been out there since 2000. I predict that Bush will act quickly and decisively, liberal sensibilities be damned, make a strong conservative choice and go to the mat.

This is going to be great. The Dems will be so beaten to a pulp that when Rehnquist kicks the bucket in the fall (RIP), C.J. Thomas will be a slam dunk.
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Old 07-01-2005, 12:03 PM   #1929
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Yeah, no kidding. The WH has to be thinking "oh fuck" because now there will be a huge battle, much more than with Rehnquist, and it will be much harder to push through a right-winger, since you're not swapping one for the other. And all the names talked about were men, and that probably goes out the door now.

Feel sorry for the guy described in the Post yesterday who runs one of the orgs that will be lobbying on the new justice. He was talking yesterday about making vacation plans and such, since rehnquist didn't resign as expected. Welcome to 24/7 work for the next three months.
Counterpoint - from a reader on the Corner:

"This strikes me as a good thing for Bush. O'Connor was always going to be harder to replace with a real conservative justice than Rehnquist was. And one has to think that the Democrats' plan was probably to let a conservative through to replace Rehnquist, so as to look reasonable to the public, and then send the assassins after whoever Bush named to replace O'Connor.
Now that O'Connor has resigned first, it will be harder for the Democrats to go hard after her replacement, because they won't have another nominee to point to and say, "We confirmed this one, we just don't like this second one."

(Of course they'll still try. This is going to be a bloodbath.)"
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Old 07-01-2005, 12:04 PM   #1930
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I think you are nuts, no offence.
None taken.

But, do you think it's realistic to appoint a man to take her place? By realistic, I don't mean "would they do it" but rather, will they lose a few votes of support, which will be critical, if they don't? Two moderate Rs are women. I imagine they'll get pushed really hard to keep the ? at 22%
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Old 07-01-2005, 12:06 PM   #1931
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Counterpoint - from a reader on the Corner:

"This strikes me as a good thing for Bush. O'Connor was always going to be harder to replace with a real conservative justice than Rehnquist was. And one has to think that the Democrats' plan was probably to let a conservative through to replace Rehnquist, so as to look reasonable to the public, and then send the assassins after whoever Bush named to replace O'Connor.
Now that O'Connor has resigned first, it will be harder for the Democrats to go hard after her replacement, because they won't have another nominee to point to and say, "We confirmed this one, we just don't like this second one."

(Of course they'll still try. This is going to be a bloodbath.)"
We'll see which side is right--I can certainly understand that perspective. The opponents haven't been worn down yet, and there's no splitting the opposition this way on "do we use our powder now or later".
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Counterpoint - from a reader on the Corner:

"This strikes me as a good thing for Bush. O'Connor was always going to be harder to replace with a real conservative justice than Rehnquist was. And one has to think that the Democrats' plan was probably to let a conservative through to replace Rehnquist, so as to look reasonable to the public, and then send the assassins after whoever Bush named to replace O'Connor.
Now that O'Connor has resigned first, it will be harder for the Democrats to go hard after her replacement, because they won't have another nominee to point to and say, "We confirmed this one, we just don't like this second one."

(Of course they'll still try. This is going to be a bloodbath.)"
So, Hillary to the Supreme Court?
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Counterpoint - from a reader on the Corner:

"This strikes me as a good thing for Bush. O'Connor was always going to be harder to replace with a real conservative justice than Rehnquist was. And one has to think that the Democrats' plan was probably to let a conservative through to replace Rehnquist, so as to look reasonable to the public, and then send the assassins after whoever Bush named to replace O'Connor.
Now that O'Connor has resigned first, it will be harder for the Democrats to go hard after her replacement, because they won't have another nominee to point to and say, "We confirmed this one, we just don't like this second one."

(Of course they'll still try. This is going to be a bloodbath.)"
Bush is set to speak to the nation within the hour. Word is a nomination may come. I predict either Luttig or Janice Rogers Brown.
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Old 07-01-2005, 12:10 PM   #1934
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None taken.

But, do you think it's realistic to appoint a man to take her place? By realistic, I don't mean "would they do it" but rather, will they lose a few votes of support, which will be critical, if they don't? Two moderate Rs are women. I imagine they'll get pushed really hard to keep the ? at 22%
Personally I think its fine to appoint a man. I am gender blind.

But if you need a woman, Janice Rogers Brown or Edith Jones.
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Old 07-01-2005, 12:14 PM   #1935
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