Offering constructive criticism to the social cripples in our midst since early 2005.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Spanky
Bush only goes as far as he has to. Delay runs his mouth ad nauseaum.

And you don't think that this is, generally speaking, concerted stategery?

[Penske_Account]

How about Ann Coulter:


1. She's a lawyer and is one of the preeminent Consitutional scholars of her generation.

2. She's young.

3. She's a woman.

4. She's hot.

5. She is no-nonsense. Clear and to the point, for example, in her own words:


"In what weird parallel universe would Americans vote for abortion on demand, affirmative action, forced busing, licensing of gun owners and a ban on the death penalty? Whatever dangers lurk in a self-governing democracy, the American people have never, ever passed a law that led to the murder of 30 million unborn children.

Judges are not our dictators. The only reason the nation defers to rulings of the Supreme Court is because of the very Constitution the justices choose to ignore. At what point has the court made itself so ridiculous that we ignore it? What if the Supreme Court finds a constitutional right to cannibalism? How about fascism? Does the nation respond by passing a constitutional amendment clearly articulating that there is no right to cannibalism or fascism in the Constitution?

Is there nothing five justices on the Supreme Court could proclaim that would finally lead a president to say: I refuse to pretend this is a legitimate ruling.** Either the answer is no, and we are already living under a judicial dictatorship, or the answer is yes, and – as Churchill said – we're just bickering over the price.

It would be nice to return to our federalist system of government with three equal branches of government and 50 states, but one branch refuses to live within that system. How about taking our chances with a president and the Congress? Two branches are better than one.

Hunting liberals:



**As President Andrew Jackson once said of a Supreme Court ruling he opposed: "Well, John Marshall has made his decision, now let him enforce it." The court's ruling was ignored. And yet, somehow, the republic survived.

[Penske_Account]

The rare occassion when the NYTimes op-ed page has something making sense on it occured today in Nicholas Kristof's piece on the G-8 summit.

"Those who care about Africa tend to think that the appropriate attitude toward President Bush is a medley of fury and contempt.

But the fact is that Mr. Bush has done much more for Africa than Bill Clinton ever did, increasing the money actually spent for aid there by two-thirds so far, and setting in motion an eventual tripling of aid for Africa. Mr. Bush's crowning achievement was ending one war in Sudan, between north and south.

So as the G-8 summit meeting convenes this week, focusing on Africa, it's worth acknowledging that Mr. Bush, and conservatives generally, have in many ways been great for the developing world. At their best, they bring a healthy dose of hands-on practicality to their efforts.

The liberal approach to helping the poor is sometimes to sponsor a U.N. conference and give ringing speeches calling for changed laws and more international assistance."



Those last two lines are worth repeating:

[Conservatives] bring a healthy dose of hands-on practicality to their efforts.

The liberal approach to helping the poor is sometimes to sponsor a U.N. conference and give ringing speeches calling for changed laws and more international assistance

That really applies across a universe of issues now, doesn't it?

[Penske_Account]

[Conservatives] bring a healthy dose of hands-on practicality to their efforts.

The liberal approach to helping [solve an issue] is sometimes to sponsor a U.N. conference and/or give ringing speeches calling for changed laws and more international assistance.

[Say_hello_for_me]

Originally posted by Spanky
You go with what works. For now the national party is winning in Washington. And if it ain't broke don't fix it. Bush and Rove are always trying to get moderate to run in California because they know that they can win. The problems is that the locals don't get it. We only have two partys, so the partys have to adjust in each state, and the one side fits all does not work. However, at the National level politicians like Delay don't understand that their bloviating makes our job much more difficult. Bush only goes as far as he has to. Delay runs his mouth ad nauseaum.

2!

I'm being serious here. Let me know when Boxer's seat is up, and whether a (well-balanced economic conservative who won't spit in the face of the socially liberal electorate) decent opponent is available in your party (and to your liking). I'll raise funds for your guy in the east.

In terms of toeing the line, even numerous prominent Ds can say "I'm personally opposed to abortion, but am unwilling to take this away as an option to distressed women". Personally, I'd rather hear "I'm personally opposed to abortion, but its clear to me that the majority of the [city/state--according to RT, this country] electorate don't want abortion being outlawed, and the job I'm seeking is not to counter the will of the electorate". But I think the lines that the national Ds take on the national level should work for the local Rs at the local level... just not for the national Rs at the national level.


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[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
[Conservatives] bring a healthy dose of hands-on practicality to their efforts.

The liberal approach to helping [solve an issue] is sometimes to sponsor a U.N. conference and/or give ringing speeches calling for changed laws and more international assistance.

I sent this to the European Lawtalkers page to see if it agrees with this as a motto. Unfortunately, they say no

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
I sent this to the European Lawtalkers page to see if it agrees with this as a motto. Unfortunately, they say no

Try this:

[Conservatives] bring a healthy dose of hands-on practicality to their efforts.

The liberal approach to helping [solve an issue] is sometimes to sponsor a Congressional panel and/or give ringing speeches calling for changed laws and more tax increases to fund big government style handouts.

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
You say things like this, and yet extol Patty Murray.

Maybe you and Paigow are a good combo.

Now you know why the CA GOP is so fucked up.

[sgtclub]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...ixnewstop.html

[Chirac caught by reporters denigrading England at G8]

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
Certain historians have claimed that Mussolini was considered by his contemporaries to be intelligent, so was Stalin. That is no excuse for the excesses of oppressive tyranny that either committed.

The moment you start comparing the Clintons -- or anyone in American history, for that matter -- to the murderer of millions is the moment....

well, it's actually the moment that you confirm that you are Penske. A psycho, but lovable in that I-fondly-remember-the-uncle-who-stuffed-a-turkey-leg-in-his-pocket-every-holiday way.

Seriously though and maybe the liberals can answer this, how is it that the Democratic party is evolving to a place where this pseudo-new age-Marxist is someone whom they worship as "The Smartest Woman In The World"? Its stupifying.

She's not, it hasn't, and we don't. But something surely has made you stupid.

I love Hillary for one reason -- because she makes right-wing Republicans like you so out-of-control crazy. Or she makes you show your true colors -- i.e., "She's a lesbian! Ew! She's evil!.... me? no, I don't think there's anything wrong with being a lesbian.... BUt she's evil! She went to Wellesley! They are all lesbians!!!!"

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Penske_Account

They got tired of associating with Southern dems like this guy:

Yeah, the white southerners left the Dems because they were just so offended by Byrd's racism. They wanted to be surrounded by both Black Republicans.

Must be nice to feel like you can call other racist, Penske, while avoiding political association with all those dark people. You and Dave Duke have lunch lately?

etft -- t.s.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Spanky
I am not a Catholic (White Protestant Male that votes Republican - there is a surprise) so I find this stuff fascinating. Do you think a pro-death penalty Catholic politician should be able to get communion?

There were many policy positions that JP took that I did not like, but I think his lack of hypocracy made him a total stud boy - so to speak. I wish we had more religious leaders (especially on my side of the Christian aisle) with his strenght of character.

Yes, but he never bothered to correct the hypocrisy of his minions when they refused to give Kerry communion.

Let him who is without sin.... oh, wait -- he's a Dem? Unleash the stones.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Spanky
For the Democrats, they have to stop appealing to the Unions mainly because it alienates the environmental lobby. The environmental lobby is growing all the time and the Unions are getting smaller. The other thing thing that is blowing up in their face is the US image abroad line of argument. Studys have shown that politicians who focus on the worlds ire at the US lose points. This really killed Kerry in the election. This also killed the Global Warming thing. The Democrats have learned the Global Warming argument should be couched in terms of that it is good for the world. When they focused on the fact that the rest of the world was for Kyoto, that made Americans like it less. Most American voters like to think of America as the lone country that sticks to what is right while the rest of the world waffles. I have seen this in focus groups, where the majority of the people in the group support an issue, until you say that the majority of the world takes this position, and then everyone in the group starts changing their mind. After seeing those focus groups I now know why we are the only country that doens't use the metric system and likes Soccer.

2.

The problem with the former point is that the Dems take the environmentalists for granted (with good reason, but still) while they got it in their head sometime ago that the unions were mostly socially conservative blue-collar roughnecks who would vote Repub if the selfish economic issues were a wash.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by AliHajiSheik
Fwiw, one of the websites you referenced yesterday was tying the Clintons to Barbara's death in the Pentagon. Is there some sort of (even uncredible) evidence tying the Arkansas hillbillies to Atta & Co.? I had never heard that theory and it would make strange bedfellows considering Clinton lobbing bombs at an sudanese aspirin factory, blowing up bin Laden's former tent and how many bedfellows the Clintons like to share their marital mattress with.

Are you kidding? Penske has links to cites that place Bill and Hillary in the cockpits of the planes that hit the Towers on 9/11.

"Uncredible" has never been a negative in his view.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Spanky
Little Reality Check for my Fellow Republicans:

1) I hope that anyone that has John Ashcroft on their list for Supreme Court nominees is joking. That man is one scary person. Do I even have to go there? I am very pro-police, don't belive in the exclusionary rule and would overturn the rule against self incrimination, but that man is beyond the pale.

2) Although arms can be very useful in helping one protects ones family and property, the whole idea that the second amendment is there to protect our other liberty from the government is a little absurd. Washington showed how useful the second Amendment was against the government during the Whiskey Rebellion. And that was when someone could arm theselves as well as the government. Did you see what our military did to the Iraqi army? And I am sorry my friend, but the Iraqi army is a hell of lot better armed than you could ever hope to be. When the FBI comes to tramp on your civil liberties, because an Aschcroft Supreme Court said it was OK, every single person posting on this board is going to surrender to the FBI. No middle class pampered legal scholar on this board is going to lock and load, everyone on this board is going to reach for the sky and beg for their lives. I had a gun placed in my had when I was four, and won shooting competitions when I was a kid and I wouldn't even think of taking on the FBI, let along the 101st Airborne Division. Our only hope against tyranny is that the police and the army don't follow the tyrants orders, and pretending otherwise is just hot air. If someone on this board has actually participated in modern combat I will take their talk of using their gun to protect their liberties against a tyrannical government a little more seriously, otherwise shut the hell up.

If this board is any indication*, you are far, far too sane to be a Republican.


*Not that I think it is, but I find the "Clintons are murderers!!!!" crowd to be even more intolerable and despicable, probably because they are better funded, then the "Osama is really a great guy who we just need to understand!" crowd.