Offering constructive criticism to the social cripples in our midst since early 2005.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
Yes, Sidd was obviously doing the passive aggressive reverse psychology shuffle on me. What is his vested interest in antagonizing me?

Before he met you and learned to fuck with your mind, he actually got TWO black belts. He's trying to compensate for something, and picking on speds is apparently this month's flavor.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
Um, I don't think Pretty Lady would be a Pretty Lady if she were fat -- do you? No.

The post wasn't what I think about you or her- it was about what Spanky thinks. he's surrounded by 3-10 year olds all day. his ideal female body image is Jon Benet Ramsey. You and ncs have to work out- in HIS opinion.

[Spanky]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
I agree.

Except about being ashamed about Perot. GHWB lied. I worked for Dole's campaign in 88. I saw people read Bush's lips and become brainwashed. And then lied. Plus he screwed the pooch on Iraq. Saddam should be going on his 14th year in prison now. I don't regret that vote one bit. Thank god his son has some resolve.

eta: I think Clinton was impeached, he just wasn't convicted, which was, imo, fully correct on both counts, although the Senate abdicated its duty to truly have a hearing on the matter.

1) Yes Clinton was impeached but he should have also been convicted and removed from office. I think you have to have a zero tolerance policy for Perjury and Witness tampering. His removal from office would have gone a long way in reinforcing the foundation of our legal system. The Republicans in congress knew that the impeachment wasn't popular because of the Clinton spin machine. As Goebbles said - if you repeat a lie enough it becomes truth - that is what the White House Spin Machine did and it was an act of political brilliance - too bad it had such a negative effect on the country. "He just lied about sex - the Republicans only care about this because they are prudes and it is about sex " the success of their propaganda spin machine, and getting everyone to speak this political double speak, was so thorough that even well educated lawyers on this board continue to repeat this mindless programed mantra. You never hear them say "lie under oath". You only hear "lied about sex". Even George Orwell would be impressed. Luckily many Republicans understood that perjury and obstruction of justice had to be punished and they risked their careers doing it. Both Jim Rogan and Tom Cambpell lost their seats becuase of their support of the impeachment. And they both knew it was probably going to happen being in swing districts. But Rogan, being a former judge and prosecutor, and Campbell being a former Law School professor at Stanford, new that the principle was just too important. I was very proud of my party for pushing though with the impeachment even though it was totally unpopular.

2) GHWB broke a campaign promise. Big deal. Reagan raised taxes. As you said, a vote for Ross Perot was a vote for Clinton, so if you have problems with Hillarys rise to power, and you are looking for someone to blame, look in the mirror.

3) I don't understand this blithe dismissal of Kerry. As far as I am concerned he is the worst Senator in Washington. In my opinion his hunger for power easily eclipses Clinton.

[Spanky]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
The post wasn't what I think about you or her- it was about what Spanky thinks. he's surrounded by 3-10 year olds all day. his ideal female body image is Jon Benet Ramsey. You and ncs have to work out- in HIS opinion.

Have you already forgotten my post about the women of Star Trek?

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Spanky
1) Yes Clinton was impeached but he should have also been convicted and removed from office. I think you have to have a zero tolerance policy for Perjury and Witness tampering. His removal from office would have gone a long way in reinforcing the foundation of our legal system. The Republicans in congress knew that the impeachment wasn't popular because of the Clinton spin machine. As Goebbles said - if you repeat a lie enough it becomes truth - that is what the White House Spin Machine did and it was an act of political brilliance - too bad it had such a negative effect on the country. "He just lied about sex - the Republicans only care about this because they are prudes and it is about sex " the success of their propaganda spin machine, and getting everyone to speak this political double speak, was so thorough that even well educated lawyers on this board continue to repeat this mindless programed mantra. You never hear them say "lie under oath". You only hear "lied about sex". Even George Orwell would be impressed. Luckily many Republicans understood that perjury and obstruction of justice had to be punished and they risked their careers doing it. Both Jim Rogan and Tom Cambpell lost their seats becuase of their support of the impeachment. And they both knew it was probably going to happen being in swing districts. But Rogan, being a former judge and prosecutor, and Campbell being a former Law School professor at Stanford, new that the principle was just too important. I was very proud of my party for pushing though with the impeachment even though it was totally unpopular.

2) GHWB broke a campaign promise. Big deal. Reagan raised taxes. As you said, a vote for Ross Perot was a vote for Clinton, so if you have problems with Hillarys rise to power, and you are looking for someone to blame, look in the mirror.

3) I don't understand this blithe dismissal of Kerry. As far as I am concerned he is the worst Senator in Washington. In my opinion his hunger for power easily eclipses Clinton.

How many people do YOU think Bill and Hillary killed?

[Spanky]

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[SlaveNoMore]

Penske_Account
thanks. I appreciate the vote of confidence. As the Board's founder and an old skool ikon, I sometimes find it hard to balance my duties as an impartial objective moderator with my natural human impulses towards a subjective opinion. I like to think I hew pretty close to the former.

You have a bigger head than Barry Bonds.

[Hank Chinaski]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4651711.stm

• Thai teachers to be allowed guns
  
  
  School teachers in Thailand's troubled southern provinces will be allowed to carry guns, the government has said.
  The move is one of a series of measures designed to keep education staff from leaving the violence-hit south.
  
  Many of the region's teachers are thought to have either stopped working or demanded a transfer from the area.
  
  More than 700 people, including at least 24 teachers, have been killed since January 2004 in unrest which the government blames on Islamic militants.
  
  Teachers are often targeted as they are seen as symbols of Thailand's Buddhist authorities.
  
  
  "We have granted special rights for teachers to carry guns," deputy education minister Rung Kaewdaeng told reporters on Tuesday, adding that 2,000 teachers had already requested arms.
  
  Home to most of Thailand's 4% Muslim minority
  Muslim rebels fought the government up to the mid-80s
  Suspected militants have upped attacks since 2004, targeting Buddhists
  
  
  "They need guns. This is now a necessity as many people have survived attacks because they shot back at the attackers," Mr Rung is quoted as saying by the French news agency AFP.
  
  They will be provided with cheap or second-hand firearms and flak jackets, he added.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Before he met you and learned to fuck with your mind, he actually got TWO black belts. He's trying to compensate for something, and picking on speds is apparently this month's flavor.

Black belts? Are thye in a Red Chinese discipline of the martial arts?

Either way, as always Hank, thanks for getting my back.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Spanky
1) Yes Clinton was impeached but he should have also been convicted and removed from office. I think you have to have a zero tolerance policy for Perjury and Witness tampering. His removal from office would have gone a long way in reinforcing the foundation of our legal system. The Republicans in congress knew that the impeachment wasn't popular because of the Clinton spin machine. As Goebbles said - if you repeat a lie enough it becomes truth - that is what the White House Spin Machine did and it was an act of political brilliance - too bad it had such a negative effect on the country. "He just lied about sex - the Republicans only care about this because they are prudes and it is about sex " the success of their propaganda spin machine, and getting everyone to speak this political double speak, was so thorough that even well educated lawyers on this board continue to repeat this mindless programed mantra. You never hear them say "lie under oath". You only hear "lied about sex". Even George Orwell would be impressed. . I was very proud of my party for pushing though with the impeachment even though it was totally unpopular.
.

I agree with all of that, except I am not absolutely convinced about the conviction part, but maybe if the Senate had held real hearings, as they were Constitutionally charged to do, I would have come to a different result. Either way the rest of your characterizations are correct and it vexes me to this day why otherwise intelligent, albeit philosophically naive, liberals can't see the distinctions you point out.

Originally posted by Spanky


2) GHWB broke a campaign promise. Big deal. Reagan raised taxes. As you said, a vote for Ross Perot was a vote for Clinton, so if you have problems with Hillarys rise to power, and you are looking for someone to blame, look in the mirror. .

I didn't like GHWB from the start, i.e. during the whole of the Reagan president. I was convinced he would blow Reagan's legacy. I worked for Dole from his explatory committee started in 87 through his drop in late spring 88. I thought and still think today that he would have been a good president for the time. GHWB turned bad polling numbers in the NH primary in the week before the vote with the tax pledge when on stage at a debate he stuck a No New Taxes pledge in front of Dole to sign. Great theater. And it worked. I held that against him when he subsequently lied as I knew he was lying in feb 88. I did think it was possible electorally that Perot could throw the election into the House, so it was not a straight proxy for Clinton, but so be it. Bush I sucked and further, Bush I sucked worse in his term than Clinton did in his first 4 years, and in fact without Clinton in 92-94 we may not have gotten the house. 96-2000 is a different story.

Originally posted by Spanky


3) I don't understand this blithe dismissal of Kerry. As far as I am concerned he is the worst Senator in Washington. In my opinion his hunger for power easily eclipses Clinton.

I am not sure what this means, but I am solidly anti-Kerry, why dissin' my anti-Kerry cred?


[QUOTE]Originally posted by Spanky
As Goebbles said - if you repeat a lie enough it becomes truth - that is what the Clintons' White House Spin n/QUOTE]

Yes, and they were great learners:

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Spanky
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Positive, beyond any doubt? Absolutely no link?No knowledge? what do you think Susan McDougal was covering up? Vince foster?

How about Juanita? Certainly you have to acknowledge that he is a rapist.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
You have a bigger head than Barry Bonds.

You post this like its a bad thing. Bonds and I both understand what its like to be oppressed by a no-nothing tyranny of rabble rousers.

You're not racist are you?

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
You post this like its a bad thing. Bonds and I both understand what its like to be oppressed by a no-nothing tyranny of rabble rousers.

You're not racist are you?

Do you think knowing dirt about the Clintons is "special circumstances" to support an application for a CCW permit?

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Do you think knowing dirt about the Clintons is "special circumstances" to support an application for a CCW permit?

I will call Vince Foster and get back to you on that.

[Penske_Account]

Lawyer: Prince Albert has love child

Sad that Bill C. wasn't/isn't the type of man who would stand up to the political consequences and take responsibility for his love child . Hillary must think it takes someone else's village to raise poor sweet innocent Danny.