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Old 01-05-2005, 02:34 PM   #3556
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question re practical ways to dump someone

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I didn't translate it like that at all. I took it at face value - it's basically what my husband and I told each other and is a pretty honest representation of the facts - i.e. we have feelings for each other but it's not going to work. So end of story.
Completely different situation, in my mind. A boyfriend or girlfriend (in most cases) shouldn't get the same treatment as a wife or husband.

If you can sit down and talk to someone in a reasonable manner and come to the conclusion (most likely over time), that it's in neither person's best interest to maintain the relationship, then I'm pretty sure you won't need advice on how to break things off in the first place.

If you don't want to be with the other person, but that person wants to be with you, then the above is not always possible. And you need to make it perfectly clear that you are ending it. Give the other person something to hang on to, and watch them never let go.

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Old 01-05-2005, 02:35 PM   #3557
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I am sick, and therefore cranky. I'm tired of being miss smile-in-the-face-of-crap-and-keep-optimistic. I have been sick since the middle of December, and had to work 12+ hour days every non-weekend day between then and now anyway. I feel like I've been hit by a truck and my knees are showing an alarming propensity to collapse, and I can't go home to bed because of this fucked up deal I'm on. I blame all of you. You people infected me with your germs through my computer, me and everyone in my office. It sounds like a TB ward in here. It's all your fault. And one of you is probably on this stupid deal on the other side, and even if not I'm cranky, so I blame that on you, too.

Fucking flu.
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Old 01-05-2005, 02:42 PM   #3558
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Old 01-05-2005, 02:56 PM   #3559
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As for the U2 video debut, who cares? It's just a rehash of Where the Streets Have No Name, and hasn't everyone in the world seen Bono kiss a teenaged girl from the stage and make her swoon? That was hot back when I was a teenaged girl (at which point I would have swooned had Larry Mullen done it) but now it's just lech-y.
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Old 01-05-2005, 02:56 PM   #3560
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If you can sit down and talk to someone in a reasonable manner and come to the conclusion (most likely over time), that it's in neither person's best interest to maintain the relationship, then I'm pretty sure you won't need advice on how to break things off in the first place.

If you don't want to be with the other person, but that person wants to be with you, then the above is not always possible. And you need to make it perfectly clear that you are ending it. Give the other person something to hang on to, and watch them never let go.

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You're assuming people are thinking rationally. I wish that were the case. I tried your approach with disastrous effects a few times. But YMMV. Maybe I didn't date rational chicks...

The only tried and true way to get out is to get dumped, and thats a fucking art. The people who can swing that gig without being cruel are brilliant. I've only managed it twice.
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Old 01-05-2005, 02:58 PM   #3561
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I disagree. Telling someone there are still feelings but there's no future is translated like so: "He's telling me that he still cares, but unless I change (in some minor way), there's no future."

When it's over, say it's over.

And if you're weak and you fuck them after you want it to be over, you deserve what you get.

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The Anon's original question made it seem that it wasn't really over. The niece thinks this may be "the one," and she needs some space because it's too serious, but doesn't want a complete cut-off.

And that, in all likelihood, is the problem.
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Old 01-05-2005, 02:58 PM   #3562
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Just because you're old now doesn't mean the rest of the world is.
The point is that Bono is even older than you are, gramps.
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Old 01-05-2005, 03:01 PM   #3563
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As for the U2 video debut, who cares? .
Worse, it was dressed up as "first half highlights" Who was the jackass who came up with the idea of creating instant "highlight" packages set to some random song? The clips inevitably do not show genuine highlights, but instead are a poorly edited montage consisting of the following paint-by-numbers shots: 1) a sweaty guy from each team, showing that he's "playing hard"; 2) one or two assinine celebrations by a player who eeked out a first down on a 3d and 6 play, shortly before the drive fizzled; 3) shots of fugly fans rooting for the home team; 4) shots of semi-attractive cheerleaders shaking their thang. Only #4 is marginally valuable.
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Worse, it was dressed up as "first half highlights" Who was the jackass who came up with the idea of creating instant "highlight" packages set to some random song? The clips inevitably do not show genuine highlights, but instead are a poorly edited montage consisting of the following paint-by-numbers shots: 1) a sweaty guy from each team, showing that he's "playing hard"; 2) one or two assinine celebrations by a player who eeked out a first down on a 3d and 6 play, shortly before the drive fizzled; 3) shots of fugly fans rooting for the home team; 4) shots of semi-attractive cheerleaders shaking their thang. Only #4 is marginally valuable.
Speaking of which, what the hell happened to the USC cheerleaders? The only redeeming feature of USC used to be their hot cheerleaders. When I was watching the same, I was shocked and amazed how much the talent level had dropped. It's a sad sad day when the USC cheerleaders can almost be mistaken for Stanford's.
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Old 01-05-2005, 03:15 PM   #3565
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Speaking of which, what the hell happened to the USC cheerleaders? The only redeeming feature of USC used to be their hot cheerleaders. When I was watching the same, I was shocked and amazed how much the talent level had dropped. It's a sad sad day when the USC cheerleaders can almost be mistaken for Stanford's.
Is it still okay to cut girls who are ugly? I bet a few Campus groups would go crazy if the Cheerleaders cut every girl who wasn't pretty and big-boobed.

I sat at Courtside for a Michigan State game last month. The Cheerleaders were right there and some were quite ugly. MSU once had very beautiful cheerleaders. Is this social progress or just the pretty girls have too much going on to bother?
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Old 01-05-2005, 03:18 PM   #3566
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First, a happy Ollie Day to everyone. I'm celebrating with a cold. I blame RT.

Second, I had a really weird dream last night, and feel compelled to share at least parts of it. (Sorry, Thurgreed) I was lost in a strange and unnamed city. Somehow, I eventually ended up in an apartment where, to my surprise, a female partner in my firm was sort of mock-pegging a male partner. I say "mock" because they did not actually have a strap-on. She was just sort of dry humping him from behind. They were filming it, apparently for some sort of partner video. Eventually, other partners from my current and former firms showed up, and it turned into a party. A party where I ended up sitting on a couch with our own ABBA. We ended up making out. Disappointingly, it did not go any further. Even in dream state, with a raging hard on and ABBA's TITS!, I had that "wait a minute, I'm married" moment. So I left the party to look for my car, which I had lost earlier in the dream.

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Old 01-05-2005, 03:19 PM   #3567
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You're assuming people are thinking rationally. I wish that were the case. I tried your approach with disastrous effects a few times. But YMMV. Maybe I didn't date rational chicks...
I wish you were better at letting us know what you're talking about. Are you referring to what I said about ending a marriage where both parties have come to the conclusion that it is time to move on or a relationship that one person wants out of that the other person doesn't want to end?

If the latter, I've been with rational and irrational girls/women. I assume that no one needs advice on how to end things with someone who is rational (unless you're trying to find a way not to hurt them, which I already said was impossible).

As for the irrational, ending it quickly and completely, without saying words like, "I still have feelings for you" has worked better in my experience. Hell, that works better for typically rational women who just don't want a relationship to end.

The real problem is that people don't like to be disliked. I (typically) don't give a shit. If you are straightforward and honest and someone gets upset to the point where they dislike you because you no longer want to be in a relationship with them, then deal with it. My friends with the biggest problems with exes are always the ones who can't stand to be disliked by anyone (even when they hate who they were with).

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Old 01-05-2005, 03:21 PM   #3568
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The Anon's original question made it seem that it wasn't really over. The niece thinks this may be "the one," and she needs some space because it's too serious, but doesn't want a complete cut-off.

And that, in all likelihood, is the problem.
Understood. But like you (I think), it is clear that whoever said that is full of shit. There is no such thing as "You're the one, but give me some space to fuck other people to make sure." Therefore, it is over and they should say so.

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Old 01-05-2005, 03:22 PM   #3569
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And ditto for me.

You dumped Gwink's husband too? I hope you at least waited a decent interval.
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Old 01-05-2005, 03:29 PM   #3570
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Understood. But like you (I think), it is clear that whoever said that is full of shit. There is no such thing as "You're the one, but give me some space to fuck other people to make sure." Therefore, it is over and they should say so.

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The Anon's "niece" (or was it a "friend"?) wants to believe that she can have her cake and eat it too. She wants to believe that she can get a little wild and, if that doesn't work for her, go back to "the one" because he'll be on hold. So she doesn't want to fuck his roommate or best friend. She doesn't want to just dump him. She wants to say "I love you but I'm too young to be this serious," which really means "I want to fuck a bunch of other people and if I like doing that, or if I find someone better than you to settle down with, great, but if not, you know I love you and so you'll be waiting for me."

In other words, the Anon's niece is really just an immature self-centered little twit who refuses to grow up and is trying to excuse her inherent sluttiness by claiming she's "too young to be serious".

Fuck her, the little bitch.*


*Those who know me will understand that the above is misplaced anger because I have no snappy comeback to Arpy's "gramps" line.
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